<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>Hello Avri,<br><br></div>Thanks i understand that the ICANN accountability implementation process may take some time, however i see think this transition could be an opportunity to expedite the process and it is with that motives that i added those text.<br><br></div>I will like to believe that everyone here is insisting on separability simply because there is no adequate accountability within the organisation. So my text is simply trying to say ".....we believe an internal to ICANN will be more efficient however due to the lack of adequate accountability we will support the current proposal"<br><br></div>I don't want to believe that we all don't see the complications that will be introduced by the implementation of the current cwg-stewardship proposal? <br><br></div>Regards<br><div><div><div><br></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Avri Doria <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org" target="_blank">avri@acm.org</a>></span> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Hi,<br>
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I think your edits are incompatible with the previous sense of the
statement.<br>
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I would not be able to support a statement that supported ICANN
gaining permanent unreversable and inseparable control of the IANA
contract as you seem to be suggesting. I do not beleive there is
any change the Accountabilty effort could make that would give the
degree of accountabilty that separability bring. There is much to
be done in ICANN accountability to make sure it is and stays fit
for holding the contract, but that will not be enough for permanent
merging of the IANA function into ICANN.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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Thanks for your mail. Although i don't necessarily agree with
all the wordings in that draft(and i have noticed reluctance
for re-wording), however i think i can roughly agree with it
with the few edits i just made.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Rafik
Dammak <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<div class="gmail_extra">we discussed in yesterday call
(find the recordings and transcripts beloww) the IANA
transition working group proposal and the draft NCSG
comment (<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/14mDNLW17CJ_7rHSprzSAW90jhzPjlMiJf8qkbRM_Lek/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/14mDNLW17CJ_7rHSprzSAW90jhzPjlMiJf8qkbRM_Lek/edit?usp=sharing</a>)
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<div class="gmail_extra"> The NCSG statement was sent
previously to the NCSG members list and several comments
were added and resolved. the current version was sent to
NCSG policy committee for review and endorsement. we
have to submit the comment by 22nd Dec.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">Thanks to those who worked in the
comment and supported it.</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Rafik<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2014-12-17 21:13 GMT+09:00
Maryam Bakoshi <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:maryam.bakoshi@icann.org" target="_blank">maryam.bakoshi@icann.org</a>></span>:
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<div>Please find attached and below
the AC chat, transcript and MP3
recording of the NCSG Open call
(Update on CCWG on IANA
Transition) held on Tuesday, 16
December 2014. </div>
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<div><b>Attendance:</b> Rafik Dammak, Avri
Doria, Stephanie Perrin, Milton Mueller,
Amr Elsadr, Matthieu Camus, Robin Gross,
David Cake, Bill Drake, Matthew Shears,
Akinremi Peter Taiwo, Marilia Maciel,
Robert Njathika</div>
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link on the wiki: <span><a href="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/NCSG+Open+%28Update%29+Meetings" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/NCSG+Open+%28Update%29+Meetings</a></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Secretariat
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Corporation for Assigned
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maryam.bakoshi@icann.org</a></p>
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<i><span>Seun Ojedeji,<br>
</span><span>Federal University Oye-Ekiti<br>
</span><span>web: </span><a href="http://www.fuoye.edu.ng" target="_blank">http://www.fuoye.edu.ng</a><br>
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<i><span style="color:rgb(0,102,0)">Seun Ojedeji,<br style="color:rgb(0,102,0)"></span><span style="color:rgb(0,102,0)">Federal University Oye-Ekiti<br style="color:rgb(0,102,0)"></span><span style="color:rgb(0,102,0)">web: </span><a href="http://www.fuoye.edu.ng" target="_blank">http://www.fuoye.edu.ng</a><br>
<span style="color:rgb(0,102,0)"></span><span style="color:rgb(0,102,0)">Mobile: <a value="+2348035233535">+2348035233535</a></span><span style="color:rgb(0,102,0)"></span><br></i><i><span style="color:rgb(0,102,0)">alt email:<a href="http://goog_1872880453" target="_blank"> </a><a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng" target="_blank">seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng</a></span></i><br><br><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">The key to understanding is humility - my view !<br></blockquote></blockquote></font><br></div></div>
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