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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Just a short clarification on the
arguments for and against involvement here. They are not about
pragmatic vs. purist, nor about engagement or non-engagement. They
are about strategy and when and where to engage this questionable
WEF NETmunidal Initiative. <br>
<ul>
<li>On the one side Avri is arguing for engagement at the start,
with hope to "infect" the design of the Initiative without
getting trapped and co-opted. <br>
</li>
<li>On the other side are those who would rather see the
Initiative "walk its talk" and simply start with an open and
inclusive strategy that supports engagement by all
stakeholders.</li>
</ul>
In either case there is engagement, be that by "stakeholder
representatives" within the Initiative, and/or be that by the
wider stakeholder constituency within the Internet Ecosystem. <br>
<br>
Sam L., Chair<br>
NPOC Policy Committee<br>
<br>
<i>On 19/11/2014 10:51 AM, Avri Doria wrote:</i><i><br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:546CBC77.5050502@acm.org" type="cite"><i> </i><i><br>
</i><i> Hi,</i><i><br>
</i> <i><br>
</i><i> I find the arguments for Involvement more convincing than
the ones against.</i><i><br>
</i> <i><br>
</i><i> And I add one more, what NMI, WEF, ITU and all the others
need is to be persistently 'infected' with multistakeholder
principles and actuality s well as the diversity on civil
society. Our participation, no matter how hard it is condemned
or ridiculed by some of the purists, is just that infection. We
cannot spread the ideas of inclusion and transparency by staying
home as holier than all the rest until conditions are perfect.</i><i><br>
</i> <i><br>
</i><i> I do think we should demand as much as we can to remediate
the negatives, and whatever we don't get now, keep demanding
until we wear them down.</i><i><br>
</i> <i><br>
</i><i> I repsect the Interent Society and value my membership and
participation in the Internet Society, but they have a different
relationship to the power structures than we do, and they have
different Fadi problems that we have and play in a different
game. And I predict that in the end, they will participate.
Besides, just try to imagine ISOC not participating because NCSG
was against it.</i><i><br>
</i> <i><br>
</i> <i><br>
</i><i> avri</i><i><br>
</i> </blockquote>
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