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I doubt you are being unduly skeptical Ed. One of my favorite execs
while I was in government had a framed sign hanging by his
desk...."no matter how cynical you get, it is never enough to keep
up." Words to live by. However, that does not mean we should not
send a nice attaboy letter when we actually agree with something. <br>
cheers steph<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2014-11-05, 20:39, Edward Morris
wrote:<br>
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0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat;">It's obviously a positive
letter from our perspective but forgive me if I remain a bit
hesitant to throw Steve a bouquet or two. It's in the self -
interest of the Board to neuter the GAC a bit, and a bit easier
to do right now with the GAC's leadership in transition. I agree
with Robin - better late than never - but remain skeptical that
the same Board which has had trouble adhering to its Bylaws in
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From: Stephanie Perrin
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To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><br>
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 20:17:27 -0500<br>
Subject: Re: [council] Letter from Steve Crocker to GAC Chair
regarding GNSO/GAC role in gTLD policy development<br>
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So can we right a congratulatory letter?<br>
I am not kidding. We criticize so often, and board members do
appear to be aggrieved in some measure by that criticism....a
nice "attaboy" note might be welcome.<br>
cheers stephanie
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type="cite">Yes, I'm encouraged by the board's letter to GAC
on this issue and its defense of the critical role of the
GNSO in ICANN's policy development process. I'm also happy
to read the board's concern for following the process stated
in the organization's bylaws. Better late than never!
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<div>Best,</div>
<div>Robin
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after-white-space;">I think this is a very welcome
and appropriate action by the board.
<div>And a very welcome push back against some GAC
members who seem to think the GACs role is
whatever they would like it to be, and a very
solid and appropriate defence of the GNSOs (and
therefore multi-stakeholder policy making) in
policy development. </div>
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<div>On 4 Nov 2014, at 1:39 pm, Avri Doria
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<pre>Dear Council members,
You and your communities will likely be interested in the latest letter sent
by Board Chair Steve Crocker to new GAC Chair Thomas Schneider, responding
to that part of the GAC advice in its London Communique in which the GAC
commented that protections for Red Cross designations ought not to be
conditioned on a PDP:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/crocker-to-schneider-03" moz-do-not-send="true">
https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/crocker-to-schneider-03</a>
nov14-en.pdf
Pertinent parts of Dr Crocker¹s letter include the following excerpt:
"While
the GAC may participate in the policy development process, and has a role to
³provide advice on the activities of ICANN as they relate to concerns
of
governments, particularly matters where there may be an interaction between
ICANN¹s policies and various laws and international agreements or where
they
may affect public policy issues,² the GNSO has the authority to
recommend
substantive policies on topics that are within the scope of ICANN¹s
mission
statement, has potentially broad applicability to multiple situations or
organizations, is likely to have lasting value or applicability, and will
establish a guide or framework for future decision-making. The Board has
concerns about the advice in the London Communiqué because it appears
to be
inconsistent with the framework established in the Bylaws granting the GNSO
authority to recommend consensus policies to the Board, and the Board to
appropriately act upon policies developed through the bottom-up consensus
policy developed by the GNSO.²
Dr Crocker¹s letter also serves to ³kick off² the prescribed
Board-GAC
consultation process envisaged in the ICANN Bylaws in instances where the
Board disagrees with GAC advice.
Cheers
Mary
Mary Wong
Senior Policy Director
Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN)
Telephone: +1 603 574 4892
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" moz-do-not-send="true">mary.wong@icann.org</a>
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