<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">It has a charter, a distinct defined membership, its own officers and internal processes, etc. It is an organisation. Sure, its most important roles are within ICANN processes, but that doesn't mean it isn't an organisation. <div>Regards</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>David</div><div><br><div><div>On 22 Oct 2014, at 7:32 pm, Seun Ojedeji <<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 12:28 PM, avri doria<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:avri@ella.com" target="_blank">avri@ella.com</a>></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex;">No reason I see for not being able to sign. We are a bottom up organization that participates in icann and can do anything we please in terms of advocacy.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>Hmm...actually i did not know NCSG is registered as an independent organisation.<br><br></div><div>Thanks<br></div><div><br></div><div>Cheers!<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div style="font-size: 9px;">avri</div><div style="font-size: 9px;"><br></div><div style="font-size: 9px;">Sent from a T-Mobile 4G LTE Device</div><div><div class="h5"><br><br><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Seun Ojedeji <<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@GMAIL.COM" target="_blank">seun.ojedeji@GMAIL.COM</a>></div><div>Date:10/22/2014 7:05 AM (GMT-05:00)</div><div>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" target="_blank">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a></div><div>Cc:</div><div>Subject: Re: [NCSG-Discuss] [bestbits] Time-sensitive: 24 hour sign on period for ITU Plenipot joint recommendations</div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi,<br><br>I will add a +1 to this if indeed NCSG can sign which i doubt, considering that this is a stakeholder group within ICANN. Perhaps it will be good to check if NSCG has ever signed anything outside of ICANN's jurisdiction<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br></div>Cheers!<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:12 AM, William Drake<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com" target="_blank">wjdrake@gmail.com</a>></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div style="word-wrap: break-word;">Hi<div><br></div><div>I mentioned this before—is there any chance NCSG can sign on collectively in support of opening the ITU up a bit? This is of relevance to the IG environment. I’ve signed as an individual but network/org endorsements matter much more in UN-land.</div><div><br></div><div>Bill<br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br><div style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;"><b>From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;">Anne Jellema <<a href="mailto:anne@webfoundation.org" target="_blank">anne@webfoundation.org</a>><br></span></div><div style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;"><b>Date:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;">October 20, 2014 at 10:38:08 PM GMT+2<br></span></div><div style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;"><b>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;">"<a href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net" target="_blank">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net" target="_blank">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a>><br></span></div><div style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;"><b>Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;"><b>[bestbits] Time-sensitive: 24 hour sign on period for ITU Plenipot joint recommendations</b><br></span></div><div style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;"><b>Reply-To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;">Anne Jellema <<a href="mailto:anne@webfoundation.org" target="_blank">anne@webfoundation.org</a>><br></span></div><br><div><div><div dir="ltr">Dear colleagues<div><br></div><div><div style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13.3333339691162px;">As you know, a fluid working group was formed after the IGF to try to come up with joint recommendations for the ITU Plenipot. We produced the open letter on transparency and participation in the Plenipot process itself, which many of you signed (thank you!). Our second and harder task was to develop positions on some of the most important substantive issues before the conference. The output of this second phase of our work is a 7 page lobby document that is now available for endorsement for the next 24 hours at:</div><div style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13.3333339691162px;"><br></div><div style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13.3333339691162px;"><span><span style="font-size: 13px; font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(255, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap; background-color: transparent;"><a href="http://bestbits.net/itu-plenipot-notes" target="_blank">http://bestbits.net/itu-plenipot-notes</a></span></span><br></div><div style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13.3333339691162px;"><br></div><div style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13.3333339691162px;">The fluid working group struggled to obtain the conference proposals on which to base our analysis and recommendations, both because of the ITU's restrictions on document access and because many Member States submitted their proposals quite late in the day. As a result, our drafting process has taken us hard up against the start of the Plenipot itself. </div><div style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13.3333339691162px;"><span style="font-size: 13.3333339691162px;"><br></span></div><div style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13.3333339691162px;"><span style="font-size: 13.3333339691162px;">It is now very urgent to get this text in front of delegations, so we are opening it for endorsements rather than comment. If however someone has a red flag, "absolutely can't live with it" issue that prevents them from signing on, they should email me personally in the next 24 hours to propose an edit(s) to resolve this issue, and I will consult the other members of the ITU fluid working group on whether to accept this edit. </span></div><div style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13.3333339691162px;"><br></div><div style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13.3333339691162px;">Due to the lack of time for comment and consensus, we are not presenting these recommendations in the name of Best Bits or on behalf of civil society in general but only on behalf of the specific organisations endorsing. </div><div style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13.3333339691162px;"><br></div><div style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13.3333339691162px;">If you would like your organisation to be listed, please send your logo to Carolina Rossini (<a href="mailto:crossini@publicknowledge.org" target="_blank">crossini@publicknowledge.org</a>) by 22:30 CET (16:30 EST) tomorrow, 21 Oct.</div><div style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13.3333339691162px;"><br></div><div style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13.3333339691162px;">Best wishes</div><div style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13.3333339691162px;">Anne</div><div><br></div>--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family: arial; font-size: small;"><font face="'Lucida Grande'" style="font-size: 11px;">Anne Jellema </font></div><div style="font-family: arial; font-size: small;"><font face="'Lucida Grande'" style="font-size: 11px;">CEO <font color="#b8265c"> </font></font></div><div style="font-family: arial; font-size: small;"><font face="'Lucida Grande'" style="font-size: 11px;">+27 061 36 9352 (ZA) <br></font><div style="word-wrap: break-word;"><font face="'Lucida Grande'" style="font-size: 11px;"><font><a href="tel:%2B1%20202%C2%A0684%206885" value="+12026846885" target="_blank">+1 202 684 6885</a> (</font>US)</font></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word;"><font face="'Lucida Grande'" style="font-size: 11px;">@afjellema </font></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word;"><b><span style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande'; color: rgb(81, 144, 50);"><span style="font-size: 11px;"><br></span></span></b></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word;"><b><span style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande'; color: rgb(81, 144, 50);"><span style="font-size: 11px;">World Wide Web Foundation | 1110 Vermont Ave NW, Suite 500, Washington DC, 20005, USA | </span><span style="font-size: 11px;"><a href="http://www.webfoundation.org/" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);"><span style="color: rgb(81, 144, 50); text-decoration: none;">www.webfoundation.org</span></a></span><span style="font-size: 11px;"> | Twitter: @webfoundation</span></span></b><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="1"> </font></div></div><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="1"> </font><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: inherit; text-align: -webkit-auto; word-wrap: break-word;"><br></div></div></div></div></div><span>____________________________________________________________<br>You received this message as a subscriber on the list:<br> <a href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net" target="_blank">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a>.<br>To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:<br> <a href="http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits" target="_blank">http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits</a></span></div></blockquote></div><br><div>***********************************************<br>William J. 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