<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div>Thanks, Milton. I was wondering wether or not there was a reference to who made that proposal. Thought it might be worth putting in a link to the reference in the NCSG response to the by-laws amendment concerning the rejection of GAC Advice.</div><div><br></div><div>Hadn’t the EC also suggested a similar change in the board’s ability to reject GAC Advice a few years ago (similar to what’s happening now), or am I mistaken in my recollection? Did it have something to do with the .xxx gTLD?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks again.</div><div><br></div><div>Amr</div><br><div><div>On Sep 19, 2014, at 8:15 PM, Milton L Mueller <<a href="mailto:mueller@SYR.EDU">mueller@SYR.EDU</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="font-family: TrebuchetMS; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Don’t expect consistency and principled thinking from the EC especially when ICANN is involved!<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Have no idea how unified the various states are, but if it’s EU-as-normal, probably not very!<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Someone else asked if there is a record of this. My impression (could be wrong) is that there is not, I got the impression that, like the argument over opening GAC meetings, occurred behind closed doors. But if you simply reference a proposal to shift to majority voting without pointing a finger at anyone in particular I am pretty sure no one can accuse you of being incorrect.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I am initiating one final verification act, if I find a record I will let you know but don’t let that hold up the comment.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></a></div><div style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-color: blue; border-left-width: 1.5pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 4pt;"><div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>NCSG-Discuss [<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Edward Morris<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, September 18, 2014 10:24 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [NCSG-Discuss] GAC override and majority voting<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">Interesting. I wonder if the Commission would be so supportive of voting if other "distinct economies", in GAC speak, such as NAFTA and the ASEAN FTA were also GAC members. Europe is overrepresented in the GAC and the Commission itself resembles anything but a democratic organisation. I'd be interested in knowing how unified the nation-states of Europe were on this matter. Any ideas?<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-color: black; border-left-width: 1.5pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 4pt; margin: 5pt 0in 5pt 3.75pt;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">-----Original Message-----<br>From: Milton L Mueller <<a href="mailto:mueller@SYR.EDU" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">mueller@SYR.EDU</a>><br>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><br>Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 21:17:49 +0000<br>Subject: GAC override and majority voting<br> <o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">Someone was asking which government had proposed majority voting in GAC, and speculated that it was Iran.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">In fact, I have learned that it was (drum roll) the European Commission.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">This proposal came out as part of the nasty internal fight within GAC over .WINE/.VIN<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">Milton L Mueller<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">Syracuse University School of Information Studies<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><a href="http://faculty.ischool.syr.edu/mueller/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">http://faculty.ischool.syr.edu/mueller/</a><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">Internet Governance Project<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><a href="http://internetgovernance.org/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">http://internetgovernance.org</a></span></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></body></html>