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repeat;">There are two key components of the theory behind ICANN's
governance structure: bottom up and multi-stakeholder. Both are needed for
ICANN to have any legitimacy to claim stewardship of the internet.</div>
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repeat;">Under the leadership of Mr. Chehade bottom up has been disappearing
from the discourse. Robin Gross deserves a ton of thanks from all of us,
because more than any other individual active in this process Robin
has constantly stressed the importance of "bottom up": from
NetMundial to ICANN meetings Robin has been on top of this.</div>
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repeat;">Unfortunately Fadi Chehade has not been listening.</div>
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repeat;">Here is Mr. Chehade on bottom up, in this transcript Avri has
kindly brought to our attention:</div>
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repeat;">" So while I'm happy to give time so that all of us
participate fully and without any complaint that we are trying to, as you
said, top-down decide anything. I mean I don't know how else to do this.
Any attempt to do anything is top-down."</div>
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repeat;">He is correct: he doesn't know how to do this. Which is why the
12% pay raise and contract extension Mr. Chehade was recently given by the
board is a big mistake. Since Chehade admits he can't do the job, why
not find someone who can? </div>
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repeat;">He just doesn't get it.</div>
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repeat;">He is also under pressure he doesn't seem to be able to handle.
. Fadi mentions letters he's received from Senators Stern and Rubio on
the accountability issues. He will be getting more - I can promise him that.
They will, however, be from real Congressional officials. Senator Stern is a
fictional character played by Gary Shandling in the Marvel Comic movies
(e.g. Captain America). I hope Fadi was misquoted. If he really is getting
letters from cartoon characters we're in a lot worse shape than even I
thought.</div>
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repeat;">Of course, the real problem here is his perception of the problems.
In response to US government pressure Mr. Chehade says "it's
extremely important that we look responsive". Wrong answer. Right
answer? Try "it is extremely important that WE ARE
responsive".</div>
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repeat;">Mr. Chehade also seems to believe that 'trust' is a concept
that is commanded rather than earned. His discourse with Keith Drazek is
quite sad. Too many lies on TM50 for me ever to trust this man again.</div>
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repeat;">Yes, we need to work with him where we can, but if there was any
question as to whether Mr. Chehade buys into the same concept of bottom up
multi-stakeholderism most of us do, his remarks in this transcript eliminate
any question: he does not.</div>
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repeat;">Meanwhile, reading this has my blood pressure up. I wonder if Dr.
Spock is available? You, know the doctor with the office next to Senator
Stern's?</div>
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<blockquote style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">-----Original
Message-----<br />
From: Avri Doria <avri@ACM.ORG><br />
To: NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU<br />
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 11:06:34 -0400<br />
Subject: Fwd: [council] FW: FYI - Recording and Transcript of 4 August 2014
ICANN Accountability Leadership Discussion<br />
<div style="font-family: monospace, courier new, courier">Interesting
reading<br />
<br />
avri<br />
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<br />
-------- Original Message --------<br />
Subject: [council] FW: FYI - Recording and Transcript of 4
August 2014<br />
ICANN Accountability Leadership Discussion<br />
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 07:34:10 +0100<br />
From: Jonathan Robinson <<a
href="mailto:jrobinson%40afilias.info">jrobinson@afilias.info</a>><br />
Reply-To: <<a href="mailto:jrobinson%40afilias.info">
jrobinson@afilias.info</a>><br />
Organization: Afilias<br />
To: <<a href="mailto:council%40gnso.icann.org">
council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br />
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<br />
All,<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
FYI.<br />
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<br />
Audio not attached (its 16MB). All available at the link below.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Jonathan<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
*From:*Robert Hoggarth [mailto:<a href="mailto:robert.hoggarth%40icann.org">
robert.hoggarth@icann.org</a>]<br />
*Sent:* 05 August 2014 18:30<br />
*To:* Theresa Swinehart; David Olive; Byron Holland;<br />
<a href="mailto:heather.dryden%40ic.gc.ca">heather.dryden@ic.gc.ca</a>;
Jonathan Robinson; Louie Lee; Olivier MJ<br />
Crepin-Leblond; Patrik Fältström; Jun Murai; Lars-Johan Liman;
Elisa<br />
Cooper; tony holmes; Kristina Rosette; Rafik Dammak; William Drake; Rudi<br
/>
Vansnick; Michele Neylon :: Blacknight; Drazek, Keith<br />
*Cc:* Susie Johnson; Tina Shelebian; Global Leadership; Duncan Burns;<br />
Samantha Eisner; Bart Boswinkel; Marika Konings; Heidi Ullrich; Steve
Sheng<br />
*Subject:* FYI - Recording and Transcript of 4 August 2014 ICANN<br />
Accountability Leadership Discussion<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Hi All,<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Attached please find the recording of yesterday's discussion along
with<br />
the call transcript and the AC Room chat transcript. All three<br />
documents are now posted on the CEO-SO/AC/SG Leadership Connect page<br />
at <a
href="https://community.icann.org/display/soaceinputfdback/Event+Calendar"
target="_blank">
https://community.icann.org/display/soaceinputfdback/Event+Calendar</a> .<br
/>
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<br />
Best regards,<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Rob<br />
<br />
<br />
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