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Thanks Bill, that would be great! I worked all day on that stupid
dissent, trying to make it not seem like I am throwing out the whole
report, and I explained my objections to them all over a period of
some days. I also met the deadline, and I had previously warned
them it was going to be three pages. I cannot break confidence and
forward emails, but I am afraid I perhaps should have anticipated
the whole thing being thrown out, and provided options (if you don't
like this, go with the shorter version A, or B or C.) I suspect
that objections might have been found to this as well, but it could
have prevented the situation I find myself in now.<br>
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As many of you had said when I was named the only civil
society/privacy voice in the EWG, it is really hard to balance with
only one voice, particularly one such as me who is not working in
the DNS industry, and who has not got the history of the battles,
and even (you wont catch me admitting this often, so write it down)
being a non-attorney dealing with quite a few lawyers. I worked
really really hard on this, and I got help from so many of you,
especially Kathy and Tamir, when I asked questions, but it was
difficult when we were operating on Chatham House rules or the
equivalent, to supplement my meagre knowledge and skill set. <br>
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I am also afraid I am now more or less voted off the island. I have
my ticket for London, but I will not be surprised if I am not
invited to speak or participate at upcoming webinars. I am getting
(sob!) very lonely. :-) (joke, for the benefit of those who do not
know me). Anyway, I think we have the bones of a great
conversation, and I want to emphasize that there are still many
great things in that report. I think the EWG is correct in
asserting that this report pays more attention to privacy than
previous efforts. <br>
cheers steph<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2014-06-07, 4:30 AM, William Drake
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<div>I would like to hear more about the conversation that
resulted in "they would not publish it”…?</div>
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<div>The paper (and any other inputs members devise) can of course
be used as a backgrounder to our privacy session, and we could
ask staff change the Confluence link to say Workshop Agenda and
Background Paper(s) so it’s widely accessible anyway.</div>
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<div>On Jun 7, 2014, at 10:21 AM, Rafik Dammak <<a
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<div>thank you for all efforts and I acknowledge the
difficulty to participate in the EWG where it is not
easy to defend privacy unfortunately. your participation
probably helped to prevent more worse outcome. </div>
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<div>we need to respond to the report and so volunteers to
do so( we have also to respond to the Whois and local
laws too!)</div>
<div>we have many things to discuss in London in this
regard.</div>
<div>can you please share your dissenting report if
possible?</div>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> The EWG
report is out. I wrote a dissenting report, but
they would not publish it. I will give a prize to
the persons who find what I am complaining about
(Tamir, Milton, and Kathy, you don't count!)<br>
Thanks to all who have helped and encouraged me
during this long and lonely year. <br>
Stephanie<br>
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the ICANN homepage and will be part of a
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