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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I agree!<br>
Kathy<br>
:<br>
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cite="mid:90E22832-15DA-473D-99BE-CB650E11F071@mail.utoronto.ca"
type="cite">Here is what we put in the comments, with a minor edit
and new bits in red at the end. I think it works. :
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<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom:
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18px;"><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#fd353a">On the
subject of privacy, as raised in the the EWG report:</font>
We completely agree that:“As a major player in
the ecosystem of the Internet, as the multi-‐stakeholder group which sets policy for
the collection, use and disclosure of personal information </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">related </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">to </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">domain </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">names, </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">it </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">is </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">important </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">for </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">ICANN </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">to </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">show </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">corporate </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">responsibility
in </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:
18px; ">promoting </span><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="font-size: 18px; ">global </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">compliance </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">with </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">best </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">practices </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">in </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">data </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">protection.”</span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">As </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">noted </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">in </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">the </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">EWG </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">report, </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">“the </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">European </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">Union </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">has </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">now </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">agreed </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">on </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">what </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">needs </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">to </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">be </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">found </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">in </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">binding </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">corporate </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">rules </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">for </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">international </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">corporations </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">and </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">entities </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">which h</span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">old </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">and </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">transfer </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">personal </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">data”</span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">(page</span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">32). </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">This </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">will </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">be </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">a </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">critical </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">step </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">forward </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">when </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">ICANN </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">adopts </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">it </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">at </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">the </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">request </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">of </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">the </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">EWG. </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">It </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">will </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">create </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">better </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">compliance </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">with </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">the </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">data </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">protection </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">laws </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">in </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">the </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">many </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">countries </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">that </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">have </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">these </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">national </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">laws, </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">including </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">Japan, </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">S.</span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">Korea, </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">Canada </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">and </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">the </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">European </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">Union </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">nations. </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">Given </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">the </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">current </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">crisis </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">in </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">Internet </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">governance, </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">it </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">is </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">high </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">time </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">that </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">ICANN </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">indicated </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">its </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">global </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">understanding </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">of </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">relevant </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">data </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">protection </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">law </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">around </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">the </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">world, </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">and </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">adopted </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">binding </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">corporate </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">rules </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">that </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">harmonize </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">its </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">data </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">protection </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">practices </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">in </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">a </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">manner </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">that </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">meets </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">the</span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"> standards </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">expected </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">by </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">the </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">many </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">jurisdictions </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">with </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">data </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">protection </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">law. </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">While </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">we </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">note </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">that </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">the </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">issue </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">of </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">binding </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">corporate </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">rules </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">is </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">under </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">discussion </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">at </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">the </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">EU </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">in </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">the </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">context </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">of </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">impending </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">data
protection regulation, this is no reason for ICANN to
refrain from moving forward, as an international
organization operating in jurisdictions with data protection
law that applies not just to customers, but to staff and
volunteers as well. This action is long overdue and we
applaud the EWG for raising it. <font
class="Apple-style-span" color="#fd353a">We will work on
any PDP that is struck to implement this proposal, and we
encourage the Board to show leadership in this time of
Internet crisis and adopt a less US-based stance to the
issue of data protection. The global community is looking
for true globalization initiatives, this is a good one and
an easy one. </font></span></div>
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18px;">Cheers Stephanie</span></div>
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<div>On 2014-03-12, at 9:14 AM, Rafik Dammak wrote:</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Stephanie,
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</div>
<div>thanks for the comment, it reminds when we suggested
to ICANN board and CEO to investigate the possibility to
join GNI (Global Network Initiative) framework for
example.</div>
<div>can you please phrase your comment in short
description so we can use it during the discussion?</div>
<div>we have netmundial proposal too .</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Best,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Rafik</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">
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<div class="gmail_quote">2014-03-12 0:29 GMT+09:00
Stephanie Perrin <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca"
target="_blank">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>></span>:<br>
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word">At the risk of
sounding like a one-trick pony, it seems a
propitious time to comment to the Board that ICANN
should take a more proactive stance on privacy
protection, given the current controversy, and
enact binding corporate rules for its global
operations. Just a statement.
<div>
I think, in the context of what Bill is
proposing, that we should use the time to point
out that we believe in multi-stakeholderism and
we go around the globe promoting it to our more
cynical colleagues in civil society, but they
have to give us a break. Time to grow up and
make it more real. </div>
<div>cheers Stephanie</div>
<div>PS and we need funding to go to Netmundial.
:-)
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<div>On 2014-03-11, at 6:59 AM, William
Drake wrote:</div>
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word">Hi fik
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</div>
<div>Understood, but I believe we
should discuss with the board the
actual substantive focus and
implementation of their advisory
groups as a stand alone item.
Folding this into broader generic
discussion of 'Top-down vs
Bottom-up’ will result in us leaving
with little real insight or
engagement on the issues and how
they’ll be addressed.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Bill</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
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<div><br>
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<div><br>
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<div>On Mar 11, 2014, at 11:40 AM,
Rafik Dammak <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com"
target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Bill,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks for the comment,
the issue of Globalization
Advisory Group is among the
proposal #3 (I made the
mistake to use the acronym
GAG...). indeed it is new
matter to discuss about with
the board and understand
what they are planning with
such setup.</div>
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clear="all">
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<div dir="ltr">Rafik </div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2014-03-11
17:57 GMT+09:00 William
Drake <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" target="_blank">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>></span>:<br>
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<div
style="word-wrap:break-word">Hi
<div><br>
<div>
<div>On Mar 10,
2014, at 12:19
PM, Rafik Dammak
<<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</div>
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the meeting
with the
board, we
should send to
them the
topics to
discuss , we
have some
proposals and
would like to
get membership
feedback and
suggestions:</div>
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* Netmundial</blockquote>
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<div>*
Reconsideration
process for
TMCH+50
(Trademark
Clearing House
)</div>
<div>*
Top-down vs
Bottom-up
approaches:
GAG, strategic
panels, expert
groups vs PDP</div>
<div>*
IANA/ICANN
globalisation </div>
<div>* Missing
Nomcom seat
for NPOC</div>
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</div>
<div>I suggest we talk
to them about the
President’s
Globalization
Advisory Groups. As
this is new,
important, not
something we’ve
talked about before,
and they’re the ones
doing it, they might
actually have
something to say
about it. <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.icann.org/en/groups/other/globalization-19feb14-en.pdf"
target="_blank">http://www.icann.org/en/groups/other/globalization-19feb14-en.pdf</a>.
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Bill</div>
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***********************************************<br>
William J. Drake<br>
International Fellow
& Lecturer<br>
Media Change & Innovation
Division, IPMZ<br>
University of
Zurich, Switzerland<br>
Chair, Noncommercial Users
Constituency, <br>
ICANN, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.ncuc.org/"
target="_blank">www.ncuc.org</a><br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch"
target="_blank">william.drake@uzh.ch</a> (direct), <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com"
target="_blank">wjdrake@gmail.com</a>
(lists),<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.williamdrake.org/"
target="_blank">www.williamdrake.org</a><br>
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