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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Marilia:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">In responding, it is best to remember exactly what the proposed principle says:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<i><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">In multistakeholder institutions for global Internet governance, all individuals – regardless of whether they are agents of governments, international organizations, the technical
community, the private sector, civil society or interested individuals – should have equal status as participants in the formulation of public policies.</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The key phrase I want to call to your attention is: “In multistakeholder institutions for global internet governance.” In other words, I am just talking about
policy development institutions such as ICANN, IETF, RIRs, IGF. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">To say that all stakeholders should have equal status in the management of private property such as the Syracuse University network, or the AT&T network, of
course it would be crazy. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">However, the development of technical standards is “led by” the technical community not because there is a rule or principle that only techies can do it, but
because those with technical competence tend to rise to positions of authority by general consensus in the standard-setting institutions. Just as, in policy making institutions, people with legal or policy backgrounds may become more important.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">But in general, when you say “</span><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">I do not think the expression</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">should be abolished, but reinterpreted</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> “ I do would have to disagree; insofar as states have done a lot of damage within
the ICANN context by claiming that they have special authority over that and I just want to put the clamp down on those claims.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> NCSG-Discuss [mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Marilia Maciel<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 28, 2014 2:58 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NCSG-Discuss] Submission to the Brazil meeting<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Dear Milton,
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">My personal understanding is that the demand for equal roles for all stakeholders in Internet Governance is usually presented vis-a-vis
one specific actor: the States. The aim usually is to criticize the lack of equal footing in spaces like ITU or to argue that new issues should not be taken to these intergovernmental spaces.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">A more isonomic and fair approach would be to demand equal roles in all internet governance layers and arrangements, considering that most
of the areas of Internet governance are private-led and not government led: from the infrastructure layer and interconnection arrangements to the development of standards and to the terms of use of platforms in the applications layer. To be coherent the statement
should argue that all stakeholders should participate in all layers and arrangements on equal footing.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">But would that be of interest to the development of the Internet? I have doubts. My current understanding is that some areas of governance
should be private-led, just like some other areas should be state-led. For example, i</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#262626">t makes sense that the development of standards is primarily led by the technical community,</span><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#262626">
although there should be transparency, openness, accountability and also real responsiveness to inputs of other actors (and ways to guarantee responsiveness).
</span><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">That is what I understand by different roles of different actors. Therefore, I do not think the expression should be abolished, but reinterpreted.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Of course, I understand your point of view (we exchanged many e-mails about similar points over the years :) and it is certainly a valid way of looking at things.
I would support that such a document is put forward as a contribution on behalf of those who share this understanding.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Best wishes,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Marilia</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Carlos A. Afonso <<a href="mailto:ca@cafonso.ca" target="_blank">ca@cafonso.ca</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It looks quite sound to me, MM. Good contribution!<br>
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sent from a dumbphone<o:p></o:p></p>
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On 28/02/2014, at 17:45, Milton L Mueller <<a href="mailto:mueller@SYR.EDU" target="_blank">mueller@SYR.EDU</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">OK, I submitted the document to Netmundial and listed NCSG as my “organization”
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> NCSG-Discuss [<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" target="_blank">mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Olivier Kouami<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 28, 2014 2:10 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" target="_blank">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NCSG-Discuss] Submission to the Brazil meeting</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">2014-02-28 4:26 GMT+00:00 Nicolas Adam <<a href="mailto:nickolas.adam@gmail.com" target="_blank">nickolas.adam@gmail.com</a>>:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I support the statement.<span style="color:#888888"><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On 2014-02-27 3:00 PM, Milton L Mueller wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">It seems that there were several expressions of support for this statement. I have made a few minor modifications based on suggestions from comments.
Should I submit this statement on my own behalf only? Can I claim that it has support from the NCSG? Or can NCSG move forward with it on its own, and submit its own version separately?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> NCSG-Discuss [<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" target="_blank">mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Milton L Mueller<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 26, 2014 5:18 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" target="_blank">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [NCSG-Discuss] Submission to the Brazil meeting</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Dear fellow NCSG members:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I am involved in preparing two submissions to the Brazil meeting. One, with Brenden Kuerbis, is a detailed proposal for globalization of IANA. It is not ready yet, but watch for
it.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The other is a proposed principle about stakeholder equality. That statement is ready for your viewing and comment here:
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tuWn6tnQBFhXKz6FumabAHpG3zfCNx2ZBPzWNw3Ifo4/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tuWn6tnQBFhXKz6FumabAHpG3zfCNx2ZBPzWNw3Ifo4/edit?usp=sharing</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">It’s a short 2-pager, 600 words. I just want to test the waters and see how much support there is for this or whether it needs major revisions.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Professor, Syracuse University School of Information Studies<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><a href="http://faculty.ischool.syr.edu/mueller/" target="_blank">http://faculty.ischool.syr.edu/mueller/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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