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thanks Maria - i have started a very rudimentary draft here:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://piratepad.net/RNpRST03bS">http://piratepad.net/RNpRST03bS</a><br>
it's open for inputs and comments<br>
joy <br>
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That'd be great, thanks. <br>
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Here's what I drafted for the GNSO Council's response. It only
covers PDP related stuff.<br>
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Hi Maria - no, but
great, and i'd be happy to helpf you on this. I think
comments are due this Friday, Dec 13th. Shall we work
offlist on some comments and then share? I suggested to
Rafik to raise this idea at the ncsg policy call later
today (which i can't make cos of the timezone).<br>
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<div>Hi all, Did I say I was going to take the
lead..?<br>
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<div>NCUC and I believe NPOC met with ATRT
and we certainly provided feedback, but no
I don’t think anyone’s had the bandwidth
to write something up unfortunately. A
couple people said they’d take a lead,
but…
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<div>On Dec 2, 2013, at 8:44 PM,
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bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Hi - just
following up to see if any
comments were collated at
ICANN 48 for input to the
ATRT2 review at all?<br>
Cheers<br>
Joy<br>
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<div lang="x-western"> Hi
all - for context in
relation to the email I
just sent :) - I
volunteered today to
collate suggested points
for our NCSG comment to
this review.<br>
I simply gathered up the
following from either list
discussion, input from
Robin offlist, a very
helpful summary on the
GNSO council list by Maria
Farrel, and our original
NCSG comments (which noted
positive progress since
ATRT1 and expressed
concerns about threats to
ICANN's <span
style="font-size:11pt;line-height:115%"
lang="EN-US">multi-stakeholder
(MSM), bottom-up,
consensus-building model
of community
participation and
decision-making (citing
</span>the GAC Beijing
communique and the TM
clearinghouse as examples)
and recommending the
review team focus on
practical operation of the
multi-stakeholder model).<br>
Apologies if I am
repeating what you know,
but as a reminder:<br>
Overall on the ATRT2
report: imho it really is
quite an incredible
document - massive (main
report 78 pages, total 233
pages) and comprehensive
(these two things do not
always correlate!) I
think it is clear that
submissions were listened
to and appear to have been
well reflected (others may
correct us on that). I
shared Maria's excellent
and rather sobering
summary and highlights of
conclusions rather than
repeat it here. <br>
There are new
recommendations related to
ATRT 1 (such as developing
metrics for transparency
and accountability, rules
on transparency for staff,
Board, GAC and SO/AC,
proposed protections for
whistleblowers) and
arising from ATRT2 (eg
increasing equitable
participation, GAC
involvement in PDPs, quite
lengthy consideration of
time for and accesibility
of PDPs and working groups
and need for imporvements,
and new recommendations on
financial accountability
and transparency esp
critiquing this in light
ICANN's status as a not
for profit organisation).
The section reviewing the
WHOIS (72-73) and SSR
(p74) are also
interesting, critiquing
the processes and
implemention. <br>
<br>
Overall, suggestions for
the comments on this
report are:<br>
* welcoming the report and
thanking the review team
for its work <br>
* a recommendation to
mandate the
multi-stakeholder
bottom-up process<br>
* a comment about IPC's
closed membership list
(and this being in
contradiction to
transparency and
accountability principles
of the MSM)<br>
* reference to the tm+50
process and related
developments.<br>
<br>
Do folks feel able to make
any general statements
supporting (or not
supporting) the
recommendations? Any thing
missing?<br>
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Cheers<br>
<br>
Joy Liddicoat<br>
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