<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Hi Joy,<br><br></div>That'd be great, thanks. <br><br></div>Here's what I drafted for the GNSO Council's response. It only covers PDP related stuff.<br><br></div>cheers, m<br></div>
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Hi Maria - no, but great, and i'd be happy to helpf you on this. I
think comments are due this Friday, Dec 13th. Shall we work offlist
on some comments and then share? I suggested to Rafik to raise this
idea at the ncsg policy call later today (which i can't make cos of
the timezone).<br>
but very happy to help you with this<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
Joy</font></span><div><div class="h5"><br>
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<div>Hi all, Did I say I was going to take the lead..?<br>
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<div>NCUC and I believe NPOC met with ATRT and we
certainly provided feedback, but no I don’t think
anyone’s had the bandwidth to write something up
unfortunately. A couple people said they’d take a lead,
but…
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<div>On Dec 2, 2013, at 8:44 PM, joy <<a href="mailto:joy@apc.org" target="_blank">joy@apc.org</a>>
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Hi -
just following up to see if any comments
were collated at ICANN 48 for input to the
ATRT2 review at all?<br>
Cheers<br>
Joy<br>
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<div lang="x-western"> Hi all - for
context in relation to the email I just
sent :) - I volunteered today to collate
suggested points for our NCSG comment to
this review.<br>
I simply gathered up the following from
either list discussion, input from Robin
offlist, a very helpful summary on the
GNSO council list by Maria Farrel, and
our original NCSG comments (which noted
positive progress since ATRT1 and
expressed concerns about threats to
ICANN's <span style="font-size:11pt;line-height:115%" lang="EN-US">multi-stakeholder (MSM),
bottom-up, consensus-building model of
community participation and
decision-making (citing </span>the
GAC Beijing communique and the TM
clearinghouse as examples) and
recommending the review team focus on
practical operation of the
multi-stakeholder model).<br>
Apologies if I am repeating what you
know, but as a reminder:<br>
Overall on the ATRT2 report: imho it
really is quite an incredible document -
massive (main report 78 pages, total 233
pages) and comprehensive (these two
things do not always correlate!) I
think it is clear that submissions were
listened to and appear to have been well
reflected (others may correct us on
that). I shared Maria's excellent and
rather sobering summary and highlights
of conclusions rather than repeat it
here. <br>
There are new recommendations related to
ATRT 1 (such as developing metrics for
transparency and accountability, rules
on transparency for staff, Board, GAC
and SO/AC, proposed protections for
whistleblowers) and arising from ATRT2
(eg increasing equitable participation,
GAC involvement in PDPs, quite lengthy
consideration of time for and
accesibility of PDPs and working groups
and need for imporvements, and new
recommendations on financial
accountability and transparency esp
critiquing this in light ICANN's status
as a not for profit organisation). The
section reviewing the WHOIS (72-73) and
SSR (p74) are also interesting,
critiquing the processes and
implemention. <br>
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Overall, suggestions for the comments on
this report are:<br>
* welcoming the report and thanking the
review team for its work <br>
* a recommendation to mandate the
multi-stakeholder bottom-up process<br>
* a comment about IPC's closed
membership list (and this being in
contradiction to transparency and
accountability principles of the MSM)<br>
* reference to the tm+50 process and
related developments.<br>
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Do folks feel able to make any general
statements supporting (or not
supporting) the recommendations? Any
thing missing?<br>
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Cheers<br>
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Joy Liddicoat<br>
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