<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div>Hello Rafik and all,</div><div><br></div><div>Apologies about the late reply to this thread. Rafik is right about nothing better than becoming involved in Policy Development Process Working Groups (PDP WGs). It is far more effective to influence policy at ICANN by being involved in WG policy recommendations as opposed to sending in comments during public comment periods after the work has been done.</div><div><br></div><div>This PDP WG should be interesting (as Rafik pointed out) to members of the NCSG at-large, but more so to those who come from countries where Latin script is not used in the local languages. It is the result of a status report following a recommendation made by the IRD (Internationalized Registration Data) WG in May of last year. The main questions this WG will be tasked to answer are wether or not it would be desirable to have a policy requiring the translation and transliteration of contact information to a common language and common script, and who should decide who will bear the costs involved if this policy recommendation is found to be desirable.</div><div><br></div><div>Other questions posed to this WG include weighing the costs versus benefits of this policy, wether or not it should be mandatory across all gTLDs and registrants, the impact on WHOIS validation required by the 2013 RAA and finally, when the WG believes it would be best for this policy (if deemed desirable) to take effect.</div><div><br></div><div>The questions this PDP poses are not necessarily difficult to answer (at least not all of them), but I predict they will involve a lot of work. A great deal of information will be required to be taken in to account including input from different ACs/SOs, the IRD WG’s final report, any findings of the current Registration Data Services EWG as well as a newly formed EWG on Internationalized Domain Name Registration Data announced at the BA meeting.</div><div><br></div><div>Several members of the NCSG were involved in drafting the charter of this PDP WG including Chris Dillon and Rudi Vansnick, who co-chaired it. I plan on joining the WG and hope they will too. I hope many more will consider it as well. Please sign up for the webinar to learn more about this PDP, and post as many questions that any of you feel need answering to this list. I don’t claim any expertise, but will do what I can to answer any questions asked.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks.</div><div><br></div><div>Amr</div><br><div><div>On Nov 28, 2013, at 4:25 PM, Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@GMAIL.COM">rafik.dammak@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">Hello everyone,<div><br></div><div>there is nothing better to be involved ,participate and representing NCSG than joining Working groups, in particular when they match your interests. We have below a call for Translation and Transliteration PDP Working group (PDP stand for Policy Development Process). It is topic which may interest those who speak a language not using latin script. </div>
<div>when joining a working group, you can count on the help and advice of other NCSG members there. Officers, councillors and experienced members will be glad to help you.</div><div><br></div><div>For this WG, I think that Amr our GNSO councillor can give briefing about its purpose. Also as indicated below, there will be webinar to give more details.</div>
<div>for those interested, please follow the instructions e.g. contact <span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:15.199999809265137px"> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" target="_blank" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:15.199999809265137px">gnso-secs@icann.org</a> and just inform me of your willing to be involved there.</div>
<div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Best Regards,</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">Rafik</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple">
<div><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><b><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Call for Volunteers GNSO Policy Translation and Transliteration PDP Working Group<u></u><u></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><b><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><b><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">In Brief<u></u><u></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">The Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) Council is seeking volunteers to serve on the PDP Working Group (WG) on Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">This WG is expected to make recommendations to the GNSO Council on whether it is desirable to translate or transliterate contact information. In this context, <b>translation</b> is the process of conveying the meaning of text from on language into another; <b>transliteration</b> is the process of representing the characters of one alphabetical or syllabic system of writing by the characters of another, conversion alphabet.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><b><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Introductory Webinar<u></u><u></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">To provide potential volunteers with an idea of the PDP Process including Working Group procedures and also some background information on the WG’s substantive issues, an Introductory Webinar will be held at the following times:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Tuesday 10 December 2013, 12.00-13.00UTC – local times: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/m2suev5" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,233)">http://tinyurl.com/m2suev5</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Wednesday 11 December 2013, 18.00-19.00UTC – local times <a href="http://tinyurl.com/kyk5lej" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,233)">http://tinyurl.com/kyk5lej</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">To join the webinar please RVSP to <a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-secs@icann.org</a><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><b><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">First meeting<u></u><u></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">If you are interested in joining the Working Group, please contact <a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>. The <b>first meeting</b> of the Working Group is currently foreseen to take place in the week of 16 December – a doodle poll will be send out the week prior to determine a convenient meeting time. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><b><i><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Background<u></u><u></u></span></i></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in"><u></u><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span>•<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Following the Recommendations of the <a href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/ird/final-report-ird-wg-07may12-en.pdf" target="_blank">Final Report</a> of the Internationalized Registration Data Working Group, a <a href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/gtlds/transliteration-contact-final-21mar13-en.pdf" target="_blank">Final Issue Report</a> on Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information was submitted to the GNSO Council on 21 March 2013<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in"><u></u><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span>•<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">GNSO Council’s <a href="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Motions+13+June+2013" target="_blank">initiated</a> a Policy Development Process (PDP) on the translation and transliteration of contact information on 13 June 2013; Drafting Team was formed and <a href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/transliteration-contact-charter-06nov13-en.pdf" target="_blank">Charter</a> submitted to GNSO Council and <a href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#nov" target="_blank">approved</a> on 20 November 2013.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in"><u></u><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span>•<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">As part of its deliberations on this issue, Charter stipulates several questions for the PDP WG to consider, including (but not limited to):<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.25in"><u></u><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span>-<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Whether it is desirable to translate contact information to a single common language or transliterate contact information to a single common script.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.25in"><u></u><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span>-<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Who should decide who should bear the burden translating contact information to a single common language or transliterating contact information to a single common script. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.25in"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc"><li class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">For more detailed, consult the WG’s <a href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/transliteration-contact-charter-06nov13-en.pdf" target="_blank">Charter</a> and the GNSO <a href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/node/31379/" target="_blank">Policy Development Process</a> <u></u><u></u></span></li>
</ul><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in"><u></u><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span>•<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> </span></span></span><u></u><b><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Note</span></b><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> GNSO Council also requested ICANN to commission a study on the commercial feasibility of translation or transliteration systems for internationalized contact data, which is expected to be completed in time to help inform the PDP Working Group in its deliberations. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><i><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><b><i><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Relevant Documents<u></u><u></u></span></i></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:0.25in"><u></u><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span>•<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Charter Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Working Group (WG) Charter - <a href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/transliteration-contact-charter-06nov13-en.pdf" target="_blank">http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/transliteration-contact-charter-06nov13-en.pdf</a> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in"><u></u><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span>•<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Final Issue Report on Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information (<a href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/gtlds/transliteration-contact-final-21mar13-en.pdf" target="_blank">http://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/gtlds/transliteration-contact-final-21mar13-en.pdf</a>). <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in"><u></u><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span>•<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Final Report of the Internationalized Registration Data Working Group (<span style=""><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/ird/final-report-ird-wg-07may12-en.pdf" target="_blank">http://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/ird/final-report-ird-wg-07may12-en.pdf</a>)</span><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in"><u></u><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span>•<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">GNSO Working Group Guidelines, including charter guidelines (<a href="http://gnso.icann.org/council/annex-1-gnso-wg-guidelines-08apr11-en.pdf" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none">http://gnso.icann.org/council/annex-1-gnso-wg-guidelines-08apr11-en.pdf</span></a>)<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span></i><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div></div><br></div></div>
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