<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">more specifically 'survey on <span class="">ethical</span> <span class="">implications</span> of emerging technologies' <a href="http://portal.unesco.org/ci/en/ev.php-URL_ID=24229&URL_DO=DO_TOPIC&URL_SECTION=201.html">http://portal.unesco.org/ci/en/ev.php-URL_ID=24229&URL_DO=DO_TOPIC&URL_SECTION=201.html</a> (and subsequent publications)<br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">regards, <br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Alex Gakuru <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gakuru@gmail.com" target="_blank">gakuru@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Dear Andrei,<br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">You rightly inject ethics into this conversation.<br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">What fascinates is ICANN institutional data collection through WHOIS (and perhaps similarly collection of trademark data) are argued as 'technically' necessary for the security and stability of the DNS - yet massive personal data collections should be left out of discussions.<br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Previous work on ethics and or legal issues on the internet has been undertaken by UNESCO under Information Ethics re: <a href="http://www.unesco.org/new/en/communication-and-information/intergovernmental-programmes/information-for-all-programme-ifap/priorities/information-ethics/" target="_blank">http://www.unesco.org/new/en/communication-and-information/intergovernmental-programmes/information-for-all-programme-ifap/priorities/information-ethics/</a><br>
</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br>regards,<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Alex </div>
</div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Andrei Barburas <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:abarburas@iicd.org" target="_blank">abarburas@iicd.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Dear all,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">
<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">
With all due respect, we can talk about this topic for days and we will not come up with a logical answer; neither in NSA's defense nor against NSA.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">
<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I am not surprised and I will never be surprised by the fact that governments spy both on their people and other countries as well. What surprises me is that it managed to leak. There will always be a "gutsy" person that will come out and make statements or confirm statements that we already knew.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">None of you can tell me that they are surprised and/or outraged by the fact that governments spy on their own people. That's what SECRET services do; that's why they were founded and that's their mission. Governments will never have full disclosure of their intelligence activities and/or any other activity that citizen John Doe wants to know about. It's like asking from the government to disclose all the names of the undercover agents in the world, just because that's what a transparent government does.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">While indeed, there are or should be some sort of limits, not necessarily legal, but ethical, we all know that that does NOT really happen. If ambassadors have immunity, you are telling me that of one the biggest security agencies in the world is not immune to those things?</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Please bare in mind that I am not attacking or defending NSA's activities and certainly do not want to offend any of you. This is just the opinion of a fellow citizen of the world that knows that if necessary, the government of his country will "spy" on his activities if necessary (if it's not happening already, based on the amount of times I already mentioned "NSA").</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Have an excellent day ahead!</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all">
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Carlos A. Afonso <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ca@cafonso.ca" target="_blank">ca@cafonso.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Sorry, I did not start this thread... Quitting.<br>
<br>
--c.a.<div><br>
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On 11/07/2013 03:29 PM, Jorge Amodio wrote:<br>
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I've read the book that is a recollection of stuff from that website.<br>
<br>
Glad I've got the kindle version and didn't waste a tree on it reading<br>
about "assassination from the sky"<br>
<br>
On a similar subject you can read<br>
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Wired-War-Robotics-Revolution-Conflict-ebook" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/Wired-<u></u>War-Robotics-Revolution-<u></u>Conflict-ebook</a> which<br>
still is a little bit sensationalist but became a NYT best seller.<br>
<br>
BTW, I don't understand what point are you trying to make and IMHO<br>
totally out of context from ICANN and NCUC ...<br>
<br>
-J<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Carlos A. Afonso <<a href="mailto:ca@cafonso.ca" target="_blank">ca@cafonso.ca</a><br></div><div>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:ca@cafonso.ca" target="_blank">ca@cafonso.ca</a>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
Here is some non-fiction which is far from the movies:<br>
<br></div>
<a href="http://www.tomdispatch.com/__books/175550/" target="_blank">http://www.tomdispatch.com/__<u></u>books/175550/</a><div><br>
<<a href="http://www.tomdispatch.com/books/175550/" target="_blank">http://www.tomdispatch.com/<u></u>books/175550/</a>><br>
<br>
--c.a.<br>
<br>
<br>
On 11/07/2013 11:37 AM, Jorge Amodio wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
Imagination can't be driven by those individuals, they are just<br>
disclosing leaked and/or stole information, and science fiction<br>
is only<br>
for the movies.<br>
<br>
-J<br>
<br>
<br>
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 7:10 AM, Rudi Rusdiah <<a href="mailto:rusdiah@rad.net.id" target="_blank">rusdiah@rad.net.id</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:rusdiah@rad.net.id" target="_blank">rusdiah@rad.net.id</a>><br></div><div>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:rusdiah@rad.net.id" target="_blank">rusdiah@rad.net.id</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rusdiah@rad.net.id" target="_blank">rusdiah@rad.net.id</a>>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
Cant imagine how powerful is Big Brother and Big Data if<br>
there is no<br>
Edward Snowden, Julian Assange, WikiLeaks...<br>
<br>
next... sending the clown... eh the drone :-)<br>
<br>
i think Orwell was right :-)<br>
<br>
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