<div dir="ltr">does ICANN see some aspect of access to this data as an additional revenue stream for ICANN?</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Kathy Kleiman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com" target="_blank">kathy@kathykleiman.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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    <div>+1 Rudi!<br>
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      All, it was a very interesting call. The bottom line is that if we
      don't want all data, all validated, available to anyone within a
      huge range of content purposes, in a big centralized database, we
      have to do something.<br>
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      Best,<br>
      Kathy<br>
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      Just came back from Berlin, I jumped immediately on my laptop and
      connected to the call. 
      <div>This type of call needs another context as we know most of
        the intervenants are native English speakers and forget
        non-native are on the call. My concern is strait forward :
        shouldn't the end-user being the one deciding what is made
        publicly available and at the other hand : is it ICANN's mandate
        to step into the validation of personal data usage ?</div>
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      <div>My quick impression</div>
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        Rudi Vansnick</div>
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          <div>Op 6-aug.-2013, om 16:00 heeft Marie-laure Lemineur <<a href="mailto:mllemineur@GMAIL.COM" target="_blank">mllemineur@GMAIL.COM</a>>
            het volgende geschreven:</div>
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              <div>Hello, </div>
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              <div>NPOC already met with the EWG in Durban and expressed
                its concerns about specific aspects. But maybe some of
                our members will participate to the call. Personally,  I
                will attend  the Thick Whois WG weekly call scheduled
                right now at the same time as the EWG one. </div>
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              <div>Good luck with the call! </div>
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                Sent from my iPad</div>
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                On 06/08/2013, at 07:44, Robin Gross <<a href="mailto:robin@IPJUSTICE.ORG" target="_blank">robin@IPJUSTICE.ORG</a>>
                wrote:<br>
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              <blockquote type="cite">Call starts in 15 minutes with
                EWG.  All are encouraged to join.
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                    <div>On Aug 5, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Robin Gross wrote:</div>
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                        <div style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Reminder:
                           Call set for Tuesday 6 August 2013 at 14:00 -
                          15:00 UTC.</div>
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                        <div style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">NCSG
                          members are invited to meet with members of
                          ICANN's Expert Working Group (EWG) on
                          Directory Services (aka whois) to discuss the
                          group's work including its final report to the
                          board.  This is the group ICANN staff pulled
                          together to "solve" the whois problem.  All
                          NCSG members are welcome and encouraged to
                          participate in the call and ask questions of
                          the EWG members and give them your comments on
                          the report.  So please read the report and
                          participate in the call.   Call details are
                          below.  Thank you!  - Robin</div>
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                                Durban Public Report:</span></div>
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                                <pre style="font-size:9pt"><tt>  <a href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/41892060/EWG-Durban-Public-Final.pdf" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/41892060/EWG-Durban-Public-Final.pdf</a></tt></pre>

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                                <<a href="mailto:charla.shambley@icann.org" target="_blank">charla.shambley@icann.org</a>><br>
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                            <div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium"><b>EWG Call with
                                  NCSG</b><br>
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                            <div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium"><b>Date: </b></span><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium">July 30, 2013
                                11:41:11 AM PDT<br>
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                            <div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium"><b>To: </b></span><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium">"<a href="mailto:expertworkinggroup@icann.org" target="_blank">expertworkinggroup@icann.org</a>"
                                <<a href="mailto:expertworkinggroup@icann.org" target="_blank">expertworkinggroup@icann.org</a>>,
                                "<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org" target="_blank">robin@ipjustice.org</a>"
                                <<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org" target="_blank">robin@ipjustice.org</a>><br>
                              </span></div>
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                                  sans-serif">
                                  <div>Dear Expert Working Group and
                                    NCSG Members:</div>
                                  <div><font> </font></div>
                                  <div>Your conference call is scheduled
                                    for:</div>
                                  <div> </div>
                                  <div><b>**</b><b>Tuesday</b><b>, </b><b>6</b><b> 
                                      August 2013**</b></div>
                                  <div><b>14:00-15:00 UTC</b></div>
                                  <div><font><br>
                                      <font size="3">Please check your
                                        local time at: </font><a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=EWG+-+Call+with+NCSG&iso=20130806T07&p1=137&ah=1" target="_blank"><font color="#0000FF"><u>http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=EWG+-+Call+with+NCSG&iso=20130806T07&p1=137&ah=1</u></font></a></font></div>

                                  <div><font> </font></div>
                                  <div><b>Link to Adobe Connect: </b><a href="http://icann.adobeconnect.com/expertworkinggroup" target="_blank"><font color="#0000FF"><u>http://icann.adobeconnect.com/expertworkinggroup</u></font></a>/ </div>

                                  <div><font><br>
                                      <font size="3"><b>CONFERENCE ID: </b></font><font size="3">14864161</font></font></div>
                                  <div><br>
                                    Dial-in numbers are listed below
                                    according to your country of
                                    residence. Should you be traveling,
                                    please refer to the full list
                                    available at: <a href="http://adigo.com/icann" target="_blank"><font color="#0000FF"><u>http://adigo.com/icann</u></font></a>/</div>
                                  <div>Should you require a dial-out,
                                    please provide us with your phone
                                    number.</div>
                                  <div><font><br>
                                      <font size="3"><u><b>Australia</b></u></font></font></div>
                                  <div>1 800 009 820</div>
                                  <div>1 800 036 775</div>
                                  <div>Sydney – T - <a href="tel:%2B61%20290%20372%20962" value="+61290372962" target="_blank">+61 290 372 962</a></div>
                                  <div>Melbourne – T – <a href="tel:%2B61%20399%20996%20500" value="+61399996500" target="_blank">+61 399 996 500</a></div>
                                  <div>Brisbane – T – <a href="tel:%2B61%20731%20777%20546" value="+61731777546" target="_blank">+61 731 777 546</a> </div>
                                  <div> </div>
                                  <div><u><b>Belgium</b></u></div>
                                  <div>L - 0800 79210</div>
                                  <div>M - 0800 79218</div>
                                  <div>T- <a href="tel:%2B32%2078%20480%20286" value="+3278480286" target="_blank">+32 78 480 286</a></div>
                                  <div> </div>
                                  <div><u><b>Canada</b></u></div>
                                  <div><a href="tel:1%20800%20550%206865" value="+18005506865" target="_blank">1 800 550 6865</a></div>
                                  <div>T - <a href="tel:%2B1%20213%20233%203193" value="+12132333193" target="_blank">+1 213 233 3193</a></div>
                                  <div> </div>
                                  <div><u><b>China</b></u></div>
                                  <div>North - 10 <a href="tel:800%20712%201212" value="+18007121212" target="_blank">800 712 1212</a></div>
                                  <div>South - 10 800 120 1212</div>
                                  <div>All - 400 120 0691</div>
                                  <div> </div>
                                  <div><u><b>Finland</b></u></div>
                                  <div>0 800 116 319</div>
                                  <div>800 552 040</div>
                                  <div> </div>
                                  <div><u><b>Hong-Kong</b></u></div>
                                  <div>800 965184</div>
                                  <div>T <a href="tel:%2B%20-%C2%A0852%2058%20080%20242" value="+85258080242" target="_blank">+ - 852 58 080 242</a></div>
                                  <div> </div>
                                  <div><u><b>Ireland</b></u></div>
                                  <div>1 800 684 009</div>
                                  <div> </div>
                                  <div><u><b>Jamaica</b></u></div>
                                  <div><a href="tel:1%20800%20250%201668" value="+18002501668" target="_blank">1 800 250 1668</a></div>
                                  <div> </div>
                                  <div><u><b>Nigeria</b></u></div>
                                  <div>No dial-in number available –
                                    please provide us with you phone
                                    number.</div>
                                  <div> </div>
                                  <div><u><b>United Kingdom</b></u></div>
                                  <div>0800 056 9431</div>
                                  <div>0800 032 6646</div>
                                  <div>T - <a href="tel:%2B44%20207%20099%200867" value="+442070990867" target="_blank">+44 207 099 0867</a></div>
                                  <div> </div>
                                  <div><u><b>United States</b></u></div>
                                  <div><a href="tel:1%20800%20550%206865" value="+18005506865" target="_blank">1 800 550 6865</a></div>
                                  <div>T - <a href="tel:%2B1%20213%20233%203193" value="+12132333193" target="_blank">+1 213 233 3193</a></div>
                                  <div> </div>
                                  <div><font> </font></div>
                                  <div><font color="#1F497D">Charla
                                      K. Shambley</font></div>
                                  <div><font color="#1F497D">Strategic
                                      Initiatives Executive Assistant</font></div>
                                  <div><font color="#1F497D">ICANN</font></div>
                                  <div><font color="#1F497D">12025
                                      Waterfront Drive, Suite 300</font></div>
                                  <div><font color="#1F497D">Los
                                      Angeles, CA  90094</font></div>
                                  <div><font color="#1F497D">310-578-8921</font></div>
                                  <div><font color="#1F497D"> </font></div>
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