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Just passing this on from Cindy Cohn - EFF lawyer<br>
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<p style="margin: 0px 0px 10px; padding: 0px; line-height:
1.7em; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14px; ">The letter
goes on to sharply criticize ICANN for allowing itself to be
used by governments (and big copyright interests) to
circumvent their own legislative processes. It says:</p>
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<p style="margin: 0px 0px 10px; padding: 0px; line-height:
1.7em; ">The fact that these data may be useful for law
enforcement (including copyright enforcement by private
parties) does not equal a necessity to retain these data
after termination of the contract.</p>
<p style="margin: 0px 0px 10px; padding: 0px; line-height:
1.7em; ">…</p>
<p style="margin: 0px 0px 10px; padding: 0px; line-height:
1.7em; ">the Working Party reiterates its strong objection
to the introduction of data retention by means of a
contract issued by a private corporation in order to
facilitate (public) law enforcement.</p>
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href="http://domainincite.com/13645-2013-raa-is-illegal-says-eu-privacy-watchdog"
style="margin: 0px 0px 10px; padding: 0px; color:
blue; text-decoration: none; font-size: 1.2em; ">2013
RAA is illegal, says EU privacy watchdog</a></h2>
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padding: 0px 0px 8px; font-size: 10px; color: gray; "><a
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href="http://domainincite.com/about" style="margin:
0px; padding: 0px; color: blue; text-decoration:
none; ">Kevin Murphy</a>, July 8, 2013, <a
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href="http://domainincite.com/category/domain-registrars"
title="View all posts in Domain Registrars"
rel="category tag" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;
color: blue; text-decoration: none; ">Domain
Registrars</a></div>
<p style="margin: 0px 0px 10px; padding: 0px;
line-height: 1.7em; "><strong style="margin: 0px;
padding: 0px; ">European privacy regulators have
slammed the new 2013 Registrar Accreditation
Agreement, saying it would be illegal for registrars
based in the EU to comply with it.</strong></p>
<p style="margin: 0px 0px 10px; padding: 0px;
line-height: 1.7em; ">The Article 29 Working Party,
which comprises privacy regulators from the 27
European Union nations, had harsh words for the part
of the contract that requires registrars to store data
about registrants for two years after their domains
expire.</p>
<p style="margin: 0px 0px 10px; padding: 0px;
line-height: 1.7em; ">In a letter (<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://domainincite.com/docs/20130606_Letter_to_ICANN.pdf"
title="Article 29 letter" target="_blank"
style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; color: blue;
text-decoration: none; ">pdf</a>) to ICANN last
month, Article 29 states plainly that such provisions
would be illegal in the EU:</p>
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<p style="margin: 0px 0px 10px; padding: 0px;
line-height: 1.7em; ">The fact that these personal
data can be useful for law enforcement does not
legitimise the retention of these personal data
after termination of the contract. Because there is
no legal ground for the data processing, the
proposed data retention requirement violates data
protection law in Europe.</p>
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<p style="margin: 0px 0px 10px; padding: 0px;
line-height: 1.7em; ">The 2013 RAA allows any
registrar to opt out of the data retention provisions
if it can prove that to comply would be illegal its
own jurisdiction.</p>
<p style="margin: 0px 0px 10px; padding: 0px;
line-height: 1.7em; ">The Article 29 letter has been
sent to act as blanket proof of this for all EU-based
registrars, but it’s not yet clear if ICANN will treat
it as such.</p>
<p style="margin: 0px 0px 10px; padding: 0px;
line-height: 1.7em; ">The letter goes on to sharply
criticize ICANN for allowing itself to be used by
governments (and big copyright interests) to
circumvent their own legislative processes. It says:</p>
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border-color: rgb(224, 224, 224); ">
<p style="margin: 0px 0px 10px; padding: 0px;
line-height: 1.7em; ">The fact that these data may
be useful for law enforcement (including copyright
enforcement by private parties) does not equal a
necessity to retain these data after termination of
the contract.</p>
<p style="margin: 0px 0px 10px; padding: 0px;
line-height: 1.7em; ">…</p>
<p style="margin: 0px 0px 10px; padding: 0px;
line-height: 1.7em; ">the Working Party reiterates
its strong objection to the introduction of data
retention by means of a contract issued by a private
corporation in order to facilitate (public) law
enforcement.</p>
<p style="margin: 0px 0px 10px; padding: 0px;
line-height: 1.7em; ">If there is a pressing social
need for specific collections of personal data to be
available for law enforcement, and the proposed data
retention is proportionate to the legitimate aim
pursued, it is up to national governments to
introduce legislation</p>
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<p style="margin: 0px 0px 10px; padding: 0px;
line-height: 1.7em; ">So why is ICANN trying to get
many of its registrars to break the law?</p>
<p style="margin: 0px 0px 10px; padding: 0px;
line-height: 1.7em; ">While it’s tempting to follow
the Article 29 WP’s reasoning and blame law
enforcement agencies and the Governmental Advisory
Committee, which<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://domainincite.com/6630-gac-slams-registrars-over-silly-crime-domain-moves"
title="DI" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; color:
blue; text-decoration: none; ">pushed</a> for the
new RAA to be created in the first place, the illegal
data retention provisions appear to be entirely
ICANN’s handiwork.</p>
<p style="margin: 0px 0px 10px; padding: 0px;
line-height: 1.7em; ">The original law enforcement
demands (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://domainincite.com/docs/LEA%20Recommendations.pdf"
title="LEA recommendations" target="_blank"
style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; color: blue;
text-decoration: none; ">pdf</a>) say registrars
should “securely collect and store” data about
registrants, but there’s no mention of the period for
which it should be stored.</p>
<p style="margin: 0px 0px 10px; padding: 0px;
line-height: 1.7em; ">And while the GAC has expressly
supported the LEA recommendations since 2010, it has
always said that ICANN should comply with privacy laws
in their implementation.</p>
<p style="margin: 0px 0px 10px; padding: 0px;
line-height: 1.7em; ">The GAC does not appear to have
added any of its own recommendations relating to data
retention.</p>
<p style="margin: 0px 0px 10px; padding: 0px;
line-height: 1.7em; ">ICANN can’t claim it was unaware
that the new RAA might be illegal for some registrars
either. The Article 29 WP <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://domainincite.com/10606-european-privacy-watchdog-says-icanns-whois-demands-are-unlawful"
title="DI" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; color:
blue; text-decoration: none; ">told it so</a> last
September, causing ICANN to <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://domainincite.com/10734-icann-says-eu-registrars-could-be-exempt-from-stringent-new-whois-rules"
title="DI" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; color:
blue; text-decoration: none; ">introduce the idea of
exemptions</a>.</p>
<p style="margin: 0px 0px 10px; padding: 0px;
line-height: 1.7em; ">However, the European
Commission’s GAC representative then <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://domainincite.com/10734-icann-says-eu-registrars-could-be-exempt-from-stringent-new-whois-rules"
title="DI" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; color:
blue; text-decoration: none; ">seemed to dismiss</a> the
WP’s concerns during ICANN’s public meeting in Toronto
last October.</p>
<p style="margin: 0px 0px 10px; padding: 0px;
line-height: 1.7em; ">Perhaps ICANN was justifiably
confused by these mixed messages.</p>
<p style="margin: 0px 0px 10px; padding: 0px;
line-height: 1.7em; ">According to Michele Neylon,
chair of the Registrars Stakeholder Group, it has yet
to respond to European registrars’ inquiries about the
Article 29 letter, which was sent June 6.</p>
<p style="margin: 0px 0px 10px; padding: 0px;
line-height: 1.7em; ">“We hope that ICANN staff will
take the letter into consideration, as it is clear
that the data protection authorities do not want
create extra work either for themselves or for
registrars,” Neylon said.</p>
<p style="margin: 0px 0px 10px; padding: 0px;
line-height: 1.7em; ">“For European registrars, and
non-European registrars with a customer base in the
EU, we look forward to ICANN staff providing us with
clarity on how we can deal with this matter and
respect EU and national law,” he said.</p>
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<div>On Jul 8, 2013, at 9:14 AM, Marc Perkel <<a
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Good luck with that.
I'm heading to South Africa on Friday to ICANN 47 meeting.
Robin Gross has me filling in. <br>
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<div>I'm wrangling plaintiffs. Thanks for the offer but
we've got a good list now and I think we'll stick with
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<div>BTW, the order doesn't appear to reach Verizon
wireless, which is a joint venture with Vodaphone,
only Verizon landlines. We don't think that's all
they are getting, but it doesn't make you any
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<div>And the case is already pretty busy and complex
without adding a new legal argument into the mix.</div>
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<div>Don't know if you are planning to sue
Verizon over NSA but if you need a
plaintiff I'm available. What's unique
about me is that I'm the founder of the
Church of Reality. The Religious Freedom
Restoration Act sets the standard of
review to strict scrutiny, which is
probably higher than other plaintiffs. And
- I have "The Sacred Principle of Personal
Privacy" as one of our sacred principles.
And I'm a Verizon cell phone customer.<br>
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