<div dir="ltr">No-one is removing websites like the Pirate Bay. What is happening is courts are ordering ISPs to block access to them, but these are easily circumvented and simply don't work. The Pirate Bay is still going strong <div>
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<div>Check out this article on the matter:<br></div><div><a href="http://www.firmmagazine.com/blocking-orders-torrent-sites-uk-working/">http://www.firmmagazine.com/blocking-orders-torrent-sites-uk-working/</a><br></div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Andrei Barburas <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:abarburas@iicd.org" target="_blank">abarburas@iicd.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">It's already happening if you ask me. The "removal" of certain sharing websites at a national level (pirate bay, etc) is only the beginning. If it can happen with those websites, who can say what other websites can/might be banned?</div>
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<br><br></div><div><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 11:40 AM, David Cake <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dave@difference.com.au" target="_blank">dave@difference.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word">There was that draft floating around last year of a draft document for national (or regional, or even corporate) variant DNS systems, where you define your own national root with domains added and removed. People are already trying to justify variant views of the internet. <div>
<br></div><div>Regards</div><span><font color="#888888"><div><br></div></font></span><div><span><font color="#888888">David</font></span><div><div><br><div><div>On 03/07/2013, at 5:29 PM, Alex Gakuru <<a href="mailto:gakuru@GMAIL.COM" target="_blank">gakuru@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:</div>
<br><blockquote type="cite"><p>Wildly thinking...</p><p>This development could, at some point in future, be used to justify a need for different "Internet Layers" arguably to fix emergent single points of failure. They may be "InterNet","RegNet" and "NatNet". Users could choose which network the wish to login to. International, Regional or National. Of course, one would expect "internet fragmentation" counter argument. I am just thinking out loud here...</p>
<p>[Sent from my tiny screen wireless device. Excuse mobile brevity and or unintended typos]</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Jul 3, 2013 12:03 PM, "Klaus Stoll" <<a href="mailto:kdrstoll@gmail.com" target="_blank">kdrstoll@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Dear Friends</div>
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<div>I think it is just a matter of very short time until someone will connect
ICANN in some way to this. Even if ICANN has nothing to do with anything, it is
a god send for the UN and ITU, they just need to mention ICANNs status as a US
foundation. </div>
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<div>We can see it as a problem or I think here is a opportunity. The root of
all these problems is still the fact that the general public depends on the
Internet, but does not know anything about how it is governed and run. ICANN
suddenly looks a very very old organization because it is not capable to address
the real issues of the time and is stuck in the past. What is needed now is a
big push towards true democratization of the Internet, as awareness and
involvement by all is the only way to govern the beast. It is the general
ignorance that lets those in power get away with it. If I know that and how
things are done I can try to control them, if I don’t even know the basics I am
just condemned to ignorance and in this case ignorance is NOT bliss.
(When, oh when will we finally accept that the Internet is a common good and can
and should not be in parts or as a whole be owned by anybody. We need a
universal declaration of Internet rights NOW!). You might have seen the
emails and activities regarding this topic in the last month and weeks,
(I-Inform alliance), so you will know the tools and concepts are in place, what
is missing is the will and effort to do it now!</div>
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<div>Yours</div>
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<div>Klaus</div>
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<div>(Those who want to know more about the I-Inform Alliance can send me an
email and I will forward more info).</div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="gakuru@GMAIL.COM" href="mailto:gakuru@GMAIL.COM" target="_blank">Alex Gakuru</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 03, 2013 10:23 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" target="_blank">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: ICANN Paranoia</div></div></div>
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<div style="font-style:normal;font-size:small;display:inline;text-decoration:none;font-family:'Calibri';font-weight:normal"><p>I suspect that many people remain silent on this -- perhaps still stuck at
the "Denial" stage on the Kübler-Ross model ?</p><p>[Sent from my tiny screen wireless device. Excuse mobile brevity and or
unintended typos]</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Jul 3, 2013 10:54 AM, "Andrei Barburas" <<a href="mailto:abarburas@iicd.org" target="_blank">abarburas@iicd.org</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">
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<div class="gmail_default" style="FONT-FAMILY:verdana,sans-serif">And
personally, I am still not sure why everyone was/is surprised about the
tapping and the surveillance..</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="FONT-FAMILY:verdana,sans-serif"> </div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="FONT-FAMILY:verdana,sans-serif">What Snowden
did, was just confirm the "theory". At the end of the day, just because you
don't know about something, that doesn't mean that it's not
happening.</div></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Adam Peake <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ajp@glocom.ac.jp" target="_blank">ajp@glocom.ac.jp</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Jul 3, 2013, at 4:13 PM, William Drake wrote:<br><br>> On Jul 3, 2013, at
7:08 AM, Marc Perkel <<a href="mailto:marc@CHURCHOFREALITY.ORG" target="_blank">marc@CHURCHOFREALITY.ORG</a>> wrote:<br>><br>>>
Considering the NSA and PRISM stuff and that they are into Microsoft,
Google, Apple, Facebook, etc - shouldn't we assume that ICANN has been
compromised? Considering everything else they are into how can they not be
into ICANN?<br>>><br>>> Having said that - what does that mean
to our trip?<br>><br>> Maybe that we should have all worried less
about having our computers compromised at the Beijing meeting? Or,
worried more broadly...<br><br><br></blockquote></div>
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