<p>I suspect that many people remain silent on this -- perhaps still stuck at the "Denial" stage on the Kübler-Ross model ?</p>
<p>[Sent from my tiny screen wireless device. Excuse mobile brevity and or unintended typos]</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Jul 3, 2013 10:54 AM, "Andrei Barburas" <<a href="mailto:abarburas@iicd.org">abarburas@iicd.org</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">And personally, I am still not sure why everyone was/is surprised about the tapping and the surveillance..</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">


<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">What Snowden did, was just confirm the "theory". At the end of the day, just because you don't know about something, that doesn't mean that it's not happening.</div>


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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Adam Peake <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ajp@glocom.ac.jp" target="_blank">ajp@glocom.ac.jp</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">


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On Jul 3, 2013, at 4:13 PM, William Drake wrote:<br>
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> On Jul 3, 2013, at 7:08 AM, Marc Perkel <<a href="mailto:marc@CHURCHOFREALITY.ORG" target="_blank">marc@CHURCHOFREALITY.ORG</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> Considering the NSA and PRISM stuff and that they are into Microsoft, Google, Apple, Facebook, etc - shouldn't we assume that ICANN has been compromised? Considering everything else they are into how can they not be into ICANN?<br>



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>> Having said that - what does that mean to our trip?<br>
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> Maybe that we should have all worried less about having our computers compromised at the Beijing meeting?  Or, worried more broadly...<br>
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