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From: &quot;Hughes, Debra Y.&quot; &lt;Debra.Hughes@redcross.org&gt;
To: 'Robin Gross' &lt;robin@IPJUSTICE.ORG&gt;, &quot;NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU&quot;
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Robin,

Robin,

Can you please clarify the precise results of the vote by NCSG on this deci=
sion for deferral, including whether there was any opposition to this decis=
ion by any NCSG constituency?

Thanks,
Debbie


Debra Y. Hughes
Senior Counsel

American Red Cross
2025 E Street, NW
Washington, D.C. 20006
202.303.5356 (p)
202.303.0143 (f)
Debra.Hughes@redcross.org

From: NCSG-Discuss [mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Robi=
n Gross
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 3:51 PM
To: NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: [NCSG-Discuss] NCSG Statement Explaining Our Deferral of the Vote

NCSG finds it impossible to bypass ICANN's bottom-up policy development pro=
cess in this way.  At a time when multi-stakeholder processes on the Intern=
et are being challenged, this proposal is both questionable on the merits, =
and contrary to ICANN's processes. Therefore, the NCSG has no option at thi=
s stage but to defer the vote at least until the public comment period is c=
losed.
Here are the reasons for our deferral.
One of the most important parts of the ICANN process is the public comment =
period, which allows public engagement and permits those affected by polici=
es to express their views. Public comments constitute a quintessential part=
 of iCANN's ecosystem.  How can ICANN depend on public comments when it mak=
es a decision before they have all been received? The council should not ho=
ld a vote on something as important as the implicit creation of a new form =
of reserved names, especially one that singles out some international organ=
isations for special consideration while ignoring others without full comme=
nt. The critical importance of public comments was recognized by our collea=
gue Mr. Steve Metalitz, chair of the IPC in a recent comment. Mr Metalitz s=
aid:
&quot;In trying to make the decision before the public comment period has closed=
, ICANN has failed to fulfill its pledge, in the Affirmation of Commitments=
, to employ &quot;responsive consultation procedures that provide detailed expla=
nations of the basis for decisions, including how comments have influenced =
the development of policy consideration,&quot; and to &quot;continually assess[] and =
improv[e] the processes by which ICANN receives public input (including ade=
quate explanation of decisions taken and the rationale thereof).&quot; [1]&lt;x-msg=
://784/#_ftn1&gt;
We could not agree more with this statement by our fellow stakeholder group=
 - the IPC.
The community should take the necessary time to hear all the views on this =
issue and examine other proposals, such as those from Portugal earlier this=
 week as well as the proposal from the Not-for-profit Operations Constituen=
cy that are intended to create a more fair and less arbitrary standard for =
reserved names.
The NCSG-Policy Committee believes that this is a critical policy issue and=
 needs the full guidance of the public comments before it can properly deci=
de how to vote, and thus requests a deferral of this vote.
________________________________
[1]&lt;x-msg://784/#_ftnref1&gt; http://www.icann.org/en/documents/affirmation-of=
-commitments-30sep09-en.htm, paragraphs 7 and 9.1.c.

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cuss [mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU]
&lt;b&gt;On Behalf Of &lt;/b&gt;Robin Gross&lt;br&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Sent:&lt;/b&gt; Wednesday, March 14, 2012 3:51 PM&lt;br&gt;
&lt;b&gt;To:&lt;/b&gt; NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU&lt;br&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Subject:&lt;/b&gt; [NCSG-Discuss] NCSG Statement Explaining Our Deferral of th=
e Vote&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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quot;&quot;&gt;NCSG finds it impossible to bypass ICANN&#8217;s&nbsp;bottom-up poli=
cy development process in this way. &nbsp;At a time when multi-stakeholder
 processes on the Internet are being challenged, this proposal is both ques=
tionable on the merits, and contrary to ICANN&#8217;s processes. Therefore,=
 the NCSG has no option at this stage but to defer the vote at least until =
the public comment period is closed.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=3D&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&amp;=
quot;&quot;&gt;Here are the reasons for our deferral.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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lt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&amp;=
quot;&quot;&gt;One of the most important parts of the ICANN process is the public c=
omment period, which allows public engagement and permits
 those affected by policies to express their views. Public comments constit=
ute a quintessential part of iCANN&#8217;s ecosystem.&nbsp;&nbsp;How can IC=
ANN depend on public comments when it makes a decision before they have all=
 been received? The council should not hold a vote
 on something as important as the implicit creation of a new form of reserv=
ed names, especially one that singles out some international organisations =
for special consideration while ignoring others without full comment. The c=
ritical importance of public comments
 was recognized by our colleague Mr. Steve Metalitz, chair of the IPC in a =
recent comment. Mr Metalitz said:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=3D&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-family:&quot;TimesNewRomanPSMT&quot;,&quot;ser=
if&quot;;color:black&quot;&gt;&#8220;In trying to make the decision before the publ=
ic comment period has closed, ICANN has failed to fulfill its pledge,
 in the Affirmation of Commitments, to employ &#8220;responsive consultatio=
n procedures that provide detailed explanations of the basis for decisions,=
 including how comments have influenced the development of policy considera=
tion,&#8221; and to &#8220;continually assess[] and
 improv[e] the processes by which ICANN receives public input (including ad=
equate explanation of decisions taken and the rationale thereof).&#8221;&amp;nb=
sp;&lt;a name=3D&quot;_ftnref1&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=3D&quot;x-msg://784/#_ftn1&quot; title=3D&quot;&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/=
a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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lt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&amp;=
quot;&quot;&gt;We could not agree more with this statement by our fellow stakeholde=
r group &#8211; the IPC.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=3D&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&amp;=
quot;&quot;&gt;The community should take the necessary time to hear all the views o=
n this issue and examine other proposals, such as those from
 Portugal earlier this week as well as the proposal from the Not-for-profit=
 Operations Constituency that are intended to create a more fair and less a=
rbitrary standard for reserved names.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=3D&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
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