<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Marita,</div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>Thank you very much! let us know if the contact works out.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cheers,</div><div class="">Martín.</div><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 1, 2017, at 2:41 PM, Marita Moll <<a href="mailto:mmoll@ca.inter.net" class="">mmoll@ca.inter.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
  
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  <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000" class=""><p class=""><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" class="">I am new, not sure how
        this goes, but I know time is short so I took the liberty of
        reaching out to CIRA, sent them the workshop description as it
        now stands on the google doc. and will let you know if there is
        any potential there.</font></p><p class=""><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" class="">Marita Moll</font><br class="">
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/1/2017 1:12 PM, Martin Pablo Silva
      Valent wrote:<br class="">
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      <div class="">James,</div>
      <div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span>There
        several hand as I see, they just come in in different time
        frames. I am going to be the whole day updating it. Let’s
        continue doing it. I am speaking with several people for extra
        speakers and co-organizer, but isn’t Tapani as NCSG supposed to
        be on of the co-organizers to make it NCSG? or you are going as
        the NCSG rep? (just to know if we have there already two or one
        proposer)</div>
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      <div class="">Cheers,</div>
      <div class="">Martín</div>
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          <div class="">On May 1, 2017, at 1:21 PM, James Gannon <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:james@netgov.ch" class="">james@netgov.ch</a>> wrote:</div>
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                  sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">OK guys
                  we have numerous people on this list, but absolutely
                  no one is actually contributing anything to the
                  document other than me.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                  sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">I am
                  not willing to write this proposal single handed as to
                  be honest I have no idea what the topic is even
                  supposed to be.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                        font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
                      sans-serif;" class="" lang="EN-US"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Igf-team [<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:igf-team-bounces@lists.ncsg.is" class="">mailto:igf-team-bounces@lists.ncsg.is</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Martin
                      Pablo Silva Valent<br class="">
                      <b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>30 April
                      2017 05:02<br class="">
                      <b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Robert
                      Guerra <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:rguerra@privaterra.org" class="">rguerra@privaterra.org</a>><br class="">
                      <b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:igf-team@lists.ncsg.is" class="">igf-team@lists.ncsg.is</a><br class="">
                      <b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
                      [Igf-team] Global IGF 2017 - NCSG<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
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                <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                  font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Robert
                  (and the same for everyone else), <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                  font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span class="apple-tab-span">           <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Go
                  ahead and put hands on, we really need
                  co-orgniazations and experts, specially from other
                  constituencies for this to work. So reach out, bring
                  them in. If we can have a set of “topics” to discuss
                  in a panel of experts then we have our workshop. So
                  let’s hear what experts are going to be in the IGF and
                  what topics would they be interested/willing to
                  discuss.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                  font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
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                <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                  font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Cheers,<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                  font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Martín<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
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                    <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
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                      Guerra <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:rguerra@privaterra.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration:
                        underline;" class="">rguerra@privaterra.org</a>>
                      wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                        <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
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                        <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
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                          polled th ssac and heard back th following:<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                        <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                          12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">* there's an interest and willingness
                          to collaborate on this proposal . Special
                          ally, there's an interest to bring a Security
                          , operations and technical perspective (if
                          that is of interest)<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                        <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
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                        <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
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                          members got back to me who would be happy to
                          participate on the panel (in person or
                          virtually)<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                        <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
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                        <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                          12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">1. Ben Butler from GoDaddy who likely
                          would be able to speak to RDS/Whois , domain
                          hijacking and takedown <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                        <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
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                          investigations expert who can speak to law
                          enforcement , takedown as well as cooperation
                          that's needed when doing investigations for ip
                          takedowns and cybercrime <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                        <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
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                        <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                          12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">* if a DNS operations , DNSSEC or
                          registry operations is also desired, let me
                          know and I'll teach out directly to others on
                          the ssac who have, in the past, participated
                          such as Merike Kaeo <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                        <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
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                        <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
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                          enforcement community . If that perspective is
                          desired and can be added , let me know to see
                          if I can get the FBI contact I mentioned
                          earlier to confirm (who likely will attend
                          anyway)<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                        <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
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                        <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
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                          accordingly <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                        <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
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                        <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
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                            Robert Guerra<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                          From: Martin Pablo Silva Valent<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mpsilvavalent@gmail.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration:
                            underline;" class=""><mpsilvavalent@gmail.com></a><br class="">
                          Date: April 29, 2017 at 12:27:48 PM<br class="">
                          To: Farell Folly<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:farellfolly@gmail.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration:
                            underline;" class=""><farellfolly@gmail.com></a><br class="">
                          CC: Kuerbis, Brenden N<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:brenden.kuerbis@pubpolicy.gatech.edu" style="color: purple; text-decoration:
                            underline;" class=""><brenden.kuerbis@pubpolicy.gatech.edu></a>,
                          Robert Guerra<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:rguerra@privaterra.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration:
                            underline;" class=""><rguerra@privaterra.org></a>,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:igf-team@lists.ncsg.is" style="color: purple; text-decoration:
                            underline;" class="">igf-team@lists.ncsg.is</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:igf-team@lists.ncsg.is" style="color: purple; text-decoration:
                            underline;" class=""><igf-team@lists.ncsg.is></a>,
                          William Drake<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration:
                            underline;" class=""><wjdrake@gmail.com></a><br class="">
                          Subject:  Re: [Igf-team] Global IGF 2017 -
                          NCSG<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                                Roman', serif;" class="">Agree 100% on
                                with Bill, unless someone has something
                                already cooked that we can go behind,
                                let's reach out to those experts, and
                                hope some others ncsg experts follow,
                                thanks James !!! I am not an expert but
                                I think the topic is something
                                different, new and concrete compared to
                                other panels and our usual work, worth
                                for a try. So even if it is not my field
                                I am more than willing to fully support
                                and engage. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                                  New Roman', serif;" class="">If by the
                                  end of today we don't have any new
                                  opinions I say let's bring the experts
                                  we have in our contacts. I know there
                                  is a civil society cibersecurity
                                  approach to DNS!<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                              </div>
                              <div class="">
                                <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                  font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times
                                  New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
                              </div>
                              <div class="">
                                <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                  font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times
                                  New Roman', serif;" class="">Cheers, <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                              </div>
                              <div class="">
                                <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                  font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times
                                  New Roman', serif;" class="">Martin <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                              </div>
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                                <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                  font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times
                                  New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
                              </div>
                              <div class="">
                                <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                  font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times
                                  New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                            <div class="">
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
                              <div class="">
                                <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                  font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times
                                  New Roman', serif;" class="">On 29 Apr
                                  2017 8:37 a.m., "Farell Folly" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:farellfolly@gmail.com" style="color: purple;
                                    text-decoration: underline;" class="">farellfolly@gmail.com</a>>
                                  wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                <blockquote style="border-style: none
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                                  <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                    font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times
                                    New Roman', serif;" class="">+1
                                    Martin and William.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                  <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                    font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times
                                    New Roman', serif;" class="">Best
                                    Regards<br class="">
                                    @__f_f__<br class="">
                                    <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://about.me/farell" target="_blank" style="color:
                                      purple; text-decoration:
                                      underline;" class="">about.me/farell</a><br class="">
                                    ________________________________.<br class="">
                                    Mail sent from my mobile phone.
                                    Excuse for brievety.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                  <div class="">
                                    <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                                      0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                                      font-family: 'Times New Roman',
                                      serif;" class="">Le 29 avr. 2017
                                      07:45, "William Drake" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color:
                                        purple; text-decoration:
                                        underline;" class="">wjdrake@gmail.com</a>>
                                      a écrit :<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                                      <div class="">
                                        <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                                          0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                                          font-family: 'Times New
                                          Roman', serif;" class="">Hi<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                        <div class="">
                                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                                            font-family: 'Times New
                                            Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div class="">
                                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                                            font-family: 'Times New
                                            Roman', serif;" class="">So
                                            if time pressures and
                                            switching costs mean that
                                            NCSG wants to to stick with
                                            the blue skies idea of DNS
                                            security issues for its IGF
                                            proposal this year, we’re
                                            going to need some
                                            engagement from people who
                                            know these issues well. 
                                            James Gannon is here in the
                                            group and can certainly help
                                            a lot if he has the
                                            bandwidth, not sure who else
                                            feels close enough to the
                                            topic.  Folks please speak
                                            up if you’re feel you’re in
                                            a position to help lead.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div class="">
                                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                                            font-family: 'Times New
                                            Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div class="">
                                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                                            font-family: 'Times New
                                            Roman', serif;" class="">I
                                            would also suggest we try to
                                            get some guidance from
                                            friendly folks we know who
                                            are subject experts on the
                                            issues.  Here’s some
                                            suggestions of people who
                                            could a) be speakers if
                                            they’re coming to Geneva and
                                            willing and b) either way
                                            could help craft a session
                                            description and agenda if
                                            they’re inclined:<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div class="">
                                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                                            font-family: 'Times New
                                            Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div class="">
                                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                                            font-family: 'Times New
                                            Roman', serif;" class="">1.
                                            Brenden Kuerbis from NCUC/SG
                                            (who I’m taking the liberty
                                            of Ccing without asking him
                                            first, sorry)<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div class="">
                                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                                            font-family: 'Times New
                                            Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div class="">
                                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                                            font-family: 'Times New
                                            Roman', serif;" class="">From
                                            the SSAC <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/ssac-biographies-2017-02-16-en" target="_blank" style="color: purple;
                                              text-decoration:
                                              underline;" class="">https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/ssac-biographies-2017-02-16-en</a><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div class="">
                                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                                            font-family: 'Times New
                                            Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div class="">
                                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                                            font-family: 'Times New
                                            Roman', serif;" class="">2.
                                            Robert Guerra (also on the
                                            Cc as he expressed interest
                                            in talking about security @
                                            IGF in another convo)<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div class="">
                                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                                            font-family: 'Times New
                                            Roman', serif;" class="">3.
                                            Patrik Fältström
                                            (SSAC Chair)<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div class="">
                                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                                            font-family: 'Times New
                                            Roman', serif;" class="">4.
                                            Mark Seiden<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div class="">
                                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                                            font-family: 'Times New
                                            Roman', serif;" class="">5.
                                            Suzanne Woolf<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div class="">
                                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                                            font-family: 'Times New
                                            Roman', serif;" class="">6. Ram
                                            Mohan<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div class="">
                                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                                            font-family: 'Times New
                                            Roman', serif;" class="">7. Don
                                            Blumenthal<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div class="">
                                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                                            font-family: 'Times New
                                            Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div class="">
                                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                                            font-family: 'Times New
                                            Roman', serif;" class="">If
                                            we could get these folks
                                            engaged we’d have good
                                            guidance and (if they’re
                                            coming and willing) the
                                            start of a good panel, with
                                            private sector/technical
                                            community/civil society.  It
                                            would need geo/gender
                                            balance as well.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div class="">
                                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
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                                            Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div class="">
                                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                                            font-family: 'Times New
                                            Roman', serif;" class="">If
                                            people agree with this
                                            approach we could write to
                                            them and try to get
                                            something going.  Choice of
                                            format would depend how many
                                            bodies we have etc.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div class="">
                                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                                            font-family: 'Times New
                                            Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div class="">
                                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                                            font-family: 'Times New
                                            Roman', serif;" class="">In
                                            the meanwhile, Brenden and
                                            Robert, your thoughts
                                            please.  Martin’s place
                                            holder description would
                                            obviously need to be built
                                            out and specified in keeping
                                            with the IGF proposal form
                                            which asks for agenda and
                                            description of the convo
                                            flow etc:<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div class="">
                                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                                            font-family: 'Times New
                                            Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div class="">
                                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                                            font-family: 'Times New
                                            Roman', serif;" class=""><i class="">The workshop will
                                              look at cybersecurity
                                              specifically in relation
                                              to DNS, including
                                              management interfaces,
                                              owner authentication
                                              processes, RDS/whois and
                                              related problems like
                                              domain hijacking, privacy
                                              endangerment, spam etc,
                                              not from purely technical
                                              perspective but also in
                                              how they should affect
                                              ICANN policy. The idea is
                                              that even non-technical
                                              people developing policy
                                              should acquire an
                                              understanding on how and
                                              what kind of security
                                              issues they should
                                              consider when making
                                              policy decisions.</i><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div class="">
                                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
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                                            font-family: 'Times New
                                            Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div class="">
                                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                                            font-family: 'Times New
                                            Roman', serif;" class="">Thanks<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div class="">
                                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                                            font-family: 'Times New
                                            Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div class="">
                                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                                            font-family: 'Times New
                                            Roman', serif;" class="">Bill<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div class="">
                                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                                            font-family: 'Times New
                                            Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
                                          <div class="">
                                            <blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt;
                                              margin-bottom: 5pt;" class="" type="cite">
                                              <div class="">
                                                <div style="margin: 0cm
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                                                  font-size: 12pt;
                                                  font-family: 'Times
                                                  New Roman', serif;" class="">On Apr 28,
                                                  2017, at 19:27, Martin
                                                  Pablo Silva Valent
                                                  <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mpsilvavalent@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color:
                                                    purple;
                                                    text-decoration:
                                                    underline;" class="">mpsilvavalent@GMAIL.COM</a>>
                                                  wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                              </div>
                                              <div style="margin: 0cm
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                                                'Times New Roman',
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                                              <div class="">
                                                <div class="">
                                                  <div class="">
                                                    <div class="">
                                                      <div style="margin:
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                                                        Roman', serif;" class="">Dear
                                                        all, <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div class="">
                                                      <div style="margin:
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                                                        font-size: 12pt;
                                                        font-family:
                                                        'Times New
                                                        Roman', serif;" class="">Because
                                                        of time we
                                                        cannot go into
                                                        detail on each
                                                        subject, I would
                                                        suggest to
                                                        choose one and
                                                        just work with
                                                        it. We may not
                                                        all be experts
                                                        but we should be
                                                        able to bring
                                                        them. We can
                                                        change it to
                                                        other besides
                                                        Security as long
                                                        as you have
                                                        already
                                                        something sort
                                                        out.  To save
                                                        time I suggest
                                                        we use all the
                                                        same setting we
                                                        used last year
                                                        that was
                                                        successful. If
                                                        we can agree on
                                                        the subject, the
                                                        more time
                                                        consuming and
                                                        difficult will
                                                        be to get the
                                                        speakers,
                                                        although her ewe
                                                        might need Bill
                                                        guidance, I
                                                        think we can
                                                        change this a
                                                        little bit later
                                                        in order to
                                                        submit it on
                                                        time. If you
                                                        already have a
                                                        subject to do
                                                        that we can
                                                        write down and
                                                        work around this
                                                        is your time to
                                                        talk. All ideas
                                                        are welcomed,
                                                        have always
                                                        been. <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div class="">
                                                      <div style="margin:
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                                                    </div>
                                                    <div class="">
                                                      <div style="margin:
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                                                        Roman', serif;" class="">Here I
                                                        summarize the
                                                        question we need
                                                        to answer so you
                                                        can just answer
                                                        this email
                                                        instead of going
                                                        to the doc, I
                                                        will then
                                                        consolidate
                                                        things on the
                                                        doc.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div class="">
                                                      <div style="margin:
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                                                    </div>
                                                    <div class="">
                                                      <div style="margin:
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                                                          ¿Session
                                                          Format?*</b><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div class="">
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                                                        go for the 60
                                                        Min Break-out
                                                        Group
                                                        Discussions, we
                                                        can also go for
                                                        the 90 minutes
                                                        it really
                                                        depends on what
                                                        we have to do.
                                                        We could use the
                                                        same format that
                                                        we used last
                                                        year here.<br class="">
                                                        <br class="">
                                                        <b class="">2)
                                                          Session Format
                                                          Description: </b><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div class="">
                                                      <div style="margin:
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                                                        easiest way it
                                                        to have
                                                        multi-stakeholder
                                                        balanced
                                                        roundtable with
                                                        the basic
                                                        subjects of the
                                                        agenda and open
                                                        the floor for
                                                        in-site/remote
                                                        participation.
                                                        Again, if anyone
                                                        have in mind an
                                                        already thought
                                                        idea for this
                                                        just bring it
                                                        in.<br class="">
                                                        <br class="">
                                                        <b class="">3)
                                                          Proposer and
                                                          co-proposer: </b><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div class="">
                                                      <div style="margin:
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                                                        chair, Tapani
                                                        and who ever is
                                                        co-hosting the
                                                        workshop, if we
                                                        are going for
                                                        cybersecurity
                                                        then it should
                                                        be someone with
                                                        an organization
                                                        regarding that. <br class="">
                                                        <br class="">
                                                        <b class="">4)
                                                          Speakers</b><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div class="">
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                                                          on the
                                                          subject. If
                                                          you have names
                                                          for
                                                          the cybersecurity
                                                          let’s start
                                                          listing that,
                                                          we can maybe
                                                          find that
                                                          co-host there
                                                          if it is not
                                                          already in
                                                          this list.</b><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                                    </div>
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                                                        <b class="">5)
                                                          Content of the
                                                          Session * (we
                                                          outlined ciber
                                                          security, but
                                                          you can use
                                                          this space if
                                                          you have an
                                                          alternative)<br class="">
                                                          5.1) outline
                                                          for the
                                                          session</b><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div class="">
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                                                        workshop in
                                                        Internet
                                                        Governance Forum
                                                        on cybersecurity
                                                        and DNS.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div class="">
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                                                          description of
                                                          the intended
                                                          agenda for the
                                                          session and
                                                          the issues
                                                          that will be
                                                          discussed.</b><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div class="">
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                                                        workshop will
                                                        look at
                                                        cybersecurity
                                                        specifically in
                                                        relation to DNS,
                                                        including
                                                        management
                                                        interfaces,
                                                        owner
                                                        authentication
                                                        processes,
                                                        RDS/whois and
                                                        related problems
                                                        like domain
                                                        hijacking,
                                                        privacy endangerment,
                                                        spam etc, not
                                                        from purely
                                                        technical
                                                        perspective but
                                                        also in how they
                                                        should affect
                                                        ICANN policy.
                                                        The idea is that
                                                        even
                                                        non-technical
                                                        people
                                                        developing
                                                        policy should
                                                        acquire an
                                                        understanding
                                                        on how and what
                                                        kind of security
                                                        issues they
                                                        should consider
                                                        when making
                                                        policy
                                                        decisions.<br class="">
                                                        <br class="">
                                                        <b class="">6)
                                                          Relevance of
                                                          the Issue *</b><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div class="">
                                                      <div style="margin:
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                                                        provide a
                                                        concise
                                                        description of
                                                        the Internet
                                                        Governance issue
                                                        that your
                                                        session will
                                                        explore,
                                                        including how
                                                        this issue
                                                        relates to
                                                        Internet
                                                        governance
                                                        broadly, as well
                                                        as to the main
                                                        theme of IGF
                                                        2017: “Shape
                                                        Your Digital
                                                        Future!” In
                                                        other words,
                                                        please tell us
                                                        why this
                                                        workshop is
                                                        important to
                                                        include in the
                                                        IGF programme.<br class="">
                                                        <br class="">
                                                        <b class="">7)
                                                          Interventions <br class="">
                                                        </b>Same model
                                                        as last year<br class="">
                                                        <br class="">
                                                        <b class="">8)
                                                          Diversity</b><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div class="">
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                                                        <b class="">9)
                                                          Here we need
                                                          people that
                                                          are going to
                                                          be in the IGF
                                                          already:</b><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div class="">
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                                                          Onsite
                                                          Moderator <br class="">
                                                          9.2) Online
                                                          Moderator <br class="">
                                                          9.3)
                                                          Rapporteur</b> <br class="">
                                                        <br class="">
                                                        <b class="">10)
                                                          Online
                                                          Participation *
                                                          Yes, we will
                                                          have remote
                                                          acces and
                                                          moderators to
                                                          que any
                                                          on-line
                                                          participation
                                                          into the room.<br class="">
                                                        </b><br class="">
                                                        <b class="">11)
                                                          Discussion
                                                          facilitation <br class="">
                                                        </b>We can use
                                                        the same model
                                                        as last year<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                                    </div>
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                                                        <b class="">Past
                                                          IGF
                                                          Participation<br class="">
                                                        </b><br class="">
                                                        <b class="">History
                                                          in IGF :</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>How many other workshop has the
                                                        NCSG and
                                                        Co-organziers
                                                        have? Report
                                                        Links <br class="">
                                                        <br class="">
                                                        <br class="">
                                                        <b class="">VOLUNTARY
                                                          INFORMATION /
                                                          RESOURCES FOR
                                                          PROPOSERS<br class="">
                                                        </b><br class="">
                                                        XVIII.
                                                        Sustainable
                                                        Development
                                                        Goals<br class="">
                                                        <br class="">
                                                        If your workshop
                                                        proposal is
                                                        based upon one
                                                        or more of the
                                                        UN Sustainable
                                                        Development
                                                        Goals, please
                                                        indicate which
                                                        numbers here.
                                                        Note that this
                                                        information is
                                                        voluntary and
                                                        collected for
                                                        programming
                                                        purposes only;
                                                        this item has no
                                                        bearing on the
                                                        MAG’s evaluation
                                                        of your workshop
                                                        proposal.<br class="">
                                                        <br class="">
                                                        XIX. Connecting
                                                        with IGF
                                                        Intersessional
                                                        Groups &
                                                        NRIs<br class="">
                                                        <br class="">
                                                        If you would
                                                        like to
                                                        incorporate
                                                        content/speakers
                                                        related to the
                                                        IGF’s
                                                        intersessional
                                                        work or the
                                                        National and
                                                        Regional
                                                        Initiatives
                                                        (NRIs) into your
                                                        workshop, please
                                                        indicate which
                                                        of the following
                                                        would be of
                                                        interest. To the
                                                        extent possible,
                                                        the MAG/IGF
                                                        Secretariat will
                                                        provide contacts
                                                        for your
                                                        outreach to
                                                        pertinent points
                                                        of contact.<br class="">
                                                        <br class="">
                                                        Best Practice
                                                        Forums <br class="">
                                                        <br class="">
                                                        Information<br class="">
                                                        <br class="">
                                                        Dynamic
                                                        Coalitions <br class="">
                                                        <br class="">
                                                        Information<br class="">
                                                        <br class="">
                                                        National and
                                                        Regional
                                                        Initiatives <br class="">
                                                        <br class="">
                                                        Information<br class="">
                                                        <br class="">
                                                        XX. Connecting
                                                        with
                                                        International or
                                                        Other Relevant
                                                        Organizations<br class="">
                                                        <br class="">
                                                        If you are
                                                        interested in
                                                        involving in
                                                        your workshop
                                                        any of the
                                                        numerous
                                                        organizations or
                                                        subject matter
                                                        experts based in
                                                        Geneva (UN
                                                        Agencies, NGOs,
                                                        academia, think
                                                        tanks, etc.),
                                                        please indicate
                                                        your interest
                                                        above. Please
                                                        find a selection
                                                        of such
                                                        organizations
                                                        at: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://dig.watch/igf2017" target="_blank" style="color: purple;
                                                          text-decoration:
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                                                        comprehensive
                                                        information on
                                                        “International
                                                        Geneva” please
                                                        consult: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.genigf/" target="_blank" style="color: purple;
                                                          text-decoration:
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                                                        <br class="">
                                                        <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                                                    </div>
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                                                    </div>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div style="margin:
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                                                  <div class="">
                                                    <blockquote style="margin-top:
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                                                      <div class="">
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                                                          Apr 28, 2017,
                                                          at 4:42 AM,
                                                          Farell Folly
                                                          <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:farellfolly@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color:
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                                                          wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                                                      <div class="">
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                                                          All,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:
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                                                          what do we
                                                          decide?
                                                          Regarding the
                                                          short
                                                          deadline, we
                                                          should take a
                                                          decision 
                                                          today  whether
                                                          we do the
                                                          initial
                                                          proposal or
                                                          not (and
                                                          quickly vote
                                                          for another,
                                                          if not).<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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                                                          Regards<br class="">
                                                          @__f_f__<br class="">
                                                          <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://about.me/farell" target="_blank" style="color: purple;
                                                          text-decoration:
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________________________________.<br class="">
                                                          Mail sent from
                                                          my mobile
                                                          phone. Excuse
                                                          for brievety.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                                        <div class="">
                                                          <div style="margin:
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                                                          avr. 2017 2:43
                                                          PM, "William
                                                          Drake" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color:
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                                                          a écrit :<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                                                          <div class="">
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                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div style="margin:
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                                                          I didn't mean
                                                          to upset the
                                                          apple cart
                                                          here,
                                                          especially
                                                          since at the
                                                          outset I’d
                                                          suggested we
                                                          might consider
                                                          security.  But
                                                          I’m looking
                                                          now at a
                                                          multi-person
                                                          consensus
                                                          process that
                                                          has to finish
                                                          a week from
                                                          today, coupled
                                                          with a topic
                                                          on which many
                                                          of us may not
                                                          be subject
                                                          matter
                                                          experts, and
                                                          I’m just
                                                          wondering if
                                                          this is
                                                          sensible or we
                                                          should try
                                                          something that
                                                          would come a
                                                          lot easier to
                                                          us?  I
                                                          organized I
                                                          think seven
                                                          approved
                                                          workshop
                                                          proposals for
                                                          NCUC and NCSG
                                                          between
                                                          2013-2015 and
                                                          they were each
                                                          time
                                                          consuming. So
                                                          I’m inclined
                                                          to say that if
                                                          NCSG is going
                                                          to get
                                                          something out
                                                          quickly that
                                                          meets the
                                                          MAG’s criteria
                                                          there’s no
                                                          time for navel
                                                          gazing.  Take
                                                          a topic we
                                                          know well and
                                                          can populate
                                                          easily and
                                                          start doing
                                                          it.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                                                          done a number
                                                          of these on
                                                          civil society
                                                          experiences in
                                                          ICANN and
                                                          their wider
                                                          implications
                                                          so that might
                                                          be a bit tired
                                                          by now.  But
                                                          maybe a hot
                                                          substantive
                                                          issue, like
                                                          ICANN
                                                          jurisdiction,
                                                          or CS @ ICANN
                                                          as a model for
                                                          other IG, or
                                                          development
                                                          aspects of
                                                          ICANN, etc…?<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                                                          Apr 26, 2017,
                                                          at 15:22,
                                                          Louise Marie
                                                          Hurel <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:louise.marie.hsd@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color:
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                                                          wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                                                          all,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                                                          <div class="">
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                                                          with Bill when
                                                          he says that
                                                          it is
                                                          challenging to
                                                          pin down
                                                          security @
                                                          ICANN. We
                                                          should keep in
                                                          mind that not
                                                          all people who
                                                          attend the IGF
                                                          are familiar
                                                          with
                                                          discussions at
                                                          ICANN -- and
                                                          if it is
                                                          challenging
                                                          for us (at
                                                          least for me)
                                                          to understand
                                                          what are the
                                                          borderlines
                                                          of cybersecurity
                                                          within ICANN,
                                                          imagine for
                                                          people outside
                                                          it. However, I
                                                          do believe
                                                          that this
                                                          session could
                                                          contribute to
                                                          a broader
                                                          discussion
                                                          about
                                                          cybersecurity
                                                          governance
                                                          (and thus the
                                                          identification
                                                          of overlapping
                                                          spaces for
                                                          collaboration
                                                          and
                                                          interaction
                                                          with other
                                                          actors/institutions
                                                          within this
                                                          field).<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                                                          the breakout
                                                          session is
                                                          the desired
                                                          format, I'd
                                                          suggest that
                                                          we need to
                                                          think about
                                                          how we are
                                                          going to make
                                                          it more
                                                          inclusive in
                                                          the sense of
                                                          leveraging
                                                          between "going
                                                          deeper into
                                                          DNS security"
                                                          (for example)
                                                          and
                                                          "interacting
                                                          with a wider
                                                          public" -- as
                                                          Martin
                                                          suggested: "<span style="font-size: 9.5pt;" class="">The idea is that even non-technical
                                                          people
                                                          developing policy
                                                          should acquire
                                                          an
                                                          understanding
                                                          of how and
                                                          what kind of
                                                          security issues
                                                          they
                                                          should consider
                                                          when making
                                                          policy
                                                          decisions.</span>"<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                                          </div>
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                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div style="margin:
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                                                          know most of
                                                          our agendas
                                                          are loaded
                                                          with calls,
                                                          but perhaps
                                                          scheduling a
                                                          one might help
                                                          us in tackling
                                                          some of these
                                                          points more
                                                          rapidly.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                                                          5:23 GMT-03:00
                                                          AbdulRasheed
                                                          Tamton <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:rasheedt.c@stc.com.sa" target="_blank" style="color:
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                                                          73, 125);" class="" lang="EN-US">Dear
                                                          All,</span><span class="" lang="EN-US"><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                                                          73, 125);" class="" lang="EN-US">Happy
                                                          to be part of
                                                          the list.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" lang="EN-US"><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                                                          serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31,
                                                          73, 125);" class="" lang="EN-US"> </span><span class="" lang="EN-US"><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                                                          73, 125);" class="" lang="EN-US">Can
                                                          anyone put
                                                          some pointers
                                                          for the
                                                          subject so
                                                          that it would
                                                          be more easier
                                                          for us to
                                                          start with. I
                                                          have already
                                                          read mail from
                                                          Martin and
                                                          others but
                                                          still would
                                                          like to get
                                                          the above, if
                                                          anyone can
                                                          really do it.</span><span class="" lang="EN-US"><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                                                          73, 125);" class="" lang="EN-US">BR,</span><span class="" lang="EN-US"><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                                                          73, 125);" class="" lang="EN-US">Rasheed
                                                          Tamton.</span><span class="" lang="EN-US"><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                                                          [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:igf-team-bounces@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank" style="color:
                                                          purple;
                                                          text-decoration:
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                                                          Folly<br class="">
                                                          <b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, April 26, 2017 10:56 AM<br class="">
                                                          <b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>William Drake<br class="">
                                                          <b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:igf-team@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">igf-team@lists.ncsg.is</a><br class="">
                                                          <b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Igf-team] Global IGF 2017 -
                                                          NCSG</span><span class="" lang="EN-US"><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                                                          all,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                                                          Martins for
                                                          reaching.
                                                          @William is
                                                          right about
                                                          how to choose
                                                          the topic and
                                                          what are the
                                                          reasons behind
                                                          the choice of
                                                          Security and
                                                          DNS.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                                                          suggest we
                                                          give today
                                                          (NLT tomorrow)
                                                          as deadline
                                                          for anyone who
                                                          would like to
                                                          make any other
                                                          suggestion.
                                                          Otherwise, me
                                                          must try and
                                                          increase our
                                                          chance to  win
                                                          application 
                                                          for this one.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                                                          Regards<br class="">
                                                          @__f_f__<br class="">
                                                          <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://about.me/farell" target="_blank" style="color: purple;
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________________________________.<br class="">
                                                          Mail sent from
                                                          my mobile
                                                          phone. Excuse
                                                          for brievety.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                                                          avr. 2017
                                                          15:53,
                                                          "William
                                                          Drake" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color:
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                                                          a écrit :<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                                                          for the
                                                          boot-up
                                                          Martin.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                                                          in the middle
                                                          of organizing
                                                          another IGF
                                                          workshop
                                                          proposal at
                                                          the moment so
                                                          I thought I’d
                                                          flag a couple
                                                          things. It
                                                          looks like we
                                                          have over 30
                                                          people in this
                                                          group, which
                                                          is great. I
                                                          don’t know if
                                                          everyone is
                                                          equally
                                                          familiar with
                                                          how the IGF
                                                          workshop
                                                          proposal
                                                          process works,
                                                          or how the
                                                          Multistakeholder
                                                          Advisory
                                                          Committee
                                                          (MAG)
                                                          evaluates
                                                          proposals. 
                                                          But it is an
                                                          increasingly
                                                          competitive
                                                          and difficult
                                                          business, they
                                                          usually get
                                                          well over 200
                                                          proposals for
                                                          under 100
                                                          workshop
                                                          slots, so it’s
                                                          important to
                                                          maximize the
                                                          fit with their
                                                          multiple and
                                                          increasingly
                                                          time-consuming
                                                          guidelines. 
                                                          There are
                                                          about five
                                                          documents at
                                                          the URL Martin
                                                          shared one
                                                          could look at
                                                          in this
                                                          regard. 
                                                          Bottom line,
                                                          the proposal
                                                          needs to be
                                                          crisp and
                                                          provocative in
                                                          content; it
                                                          needs
                                                          co-sponsors
                                                          from other
                                                          organizations
                                                          (preferably
                                                          not civil
                                                          society); the
                                                          speakers need
                                                          to be very
                                                          multistakeholder
                                                          and diverse
                                                          (geo/gender/perspective/etc),
                                                          and we have to
                                                          have full
                                                          contact and
                                                          other details
                                                          on them; there
                                                          needs to be a
                                                          plan for
                                                          remote
                                                          participation;
                                                          all the roles
                                                          must be
                                                          filled, so we
                                                          need names of
                                                          people we know
                                                          will come to
                                                          Geneva in
                                                          December; and
                                                          so on. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                                                          a reasonably
                                                          tall order
                                                          given that the
                                                          deadline for
                                                          submission is
                                                          a week from
                                                          tomorrow. 
                                                          This being the
                                                          case, it will
                                                          be important
                                                          to reach
                                                          agreement
                                                          quickly on
                                                          things like
                                                          text so that
                                                          outreach to
                                                          potential
                                                          speakers,
                                                          co-sponsors
                                                          etc. can begin
                                                          in earnest.  <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                                                          see Martin has
                                                          indicated on
                                                          the Google doc
                                                          the choice of
                                                          format as 60
                                                          minute break
                                                          out session. 
                                                          I’ve organized
                                                          workshops at
                                                          every IGF
                                                          except last
                                                          year
                                                          (including a
                                                          number of them
                                                          for NCUC and
                                                          NCSG) and have
                                                          never done one
                                                          of these, I’ve
                                                          always done 90
                                                          minute panels
                                                          or large
                                                          roundtables. 
                                                          Maybe first we
                                                          should talk
                                                          about the
                                                          format we
                                                          want?  Also,
                                                          are we set on
                                                          security? I
                                                          suggested it
                                                          on the list
                                                          when we were
                                                          chatting about
                                                          possibilities,
                                                          but I’m not
                                                          sure how easy
                                                          it will be for
                                                          us to organize
                                                          something on
                                                          security @
                                                          ICANN in the
                                                          time
                                                          available,
                                                          what are the
                                                          overarching
                                                          questions we
                                                          want to
                                                          explore, what
                                                          kinds of
                                                          people could
                                                          we get, etc. 
                                                          So maybe it’d
                                                          make sense to
                                                          sort such
                                                          threshold
                                                          issues up
                                                          front?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                                                          Apr 25, 2017,
                                                          at 16:28,
                                                          Martin Pablo
                                                          Silva Valent
                                                          <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mpsilvavalent@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color:
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                                                          wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                                                          sent this
                                                          email wrong on
                                                          sunday to the
igf-team-request@ email. Here goes right, sorry for that.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                                                          all,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                                                          to the
                                                          email-list
                                                          that Tapani so
                                                          thoughtfully
                                                          created for us
                                                          to work on the
                                                          NCSG Global
                                                          IGF 2017
                                                          Workshop
                                                          Proposal. A
                                                          few month ago,
                                                          after a very
                                                          successful
                                                          workshop in
                                                          the Global IGF
                                                          2016, we
                                                          lunched once
                                                          again the idea
                                                          to do a
                                                          workshop for
                                                          the 2017 IGF,
                                                          after a few
                                                          rounds of
                                                          ideas in
                                                          discussions we
                                                          submitted the
                                                          request to
                                                          ICANN and they
                                                          approved our
                                                          project.At the
                                                          end of this
                                                          email I copy
                                                          the details
                                                          that outline
                                                          the idea that
                                                          we shared with
                                                          ICANN,
                                                          originally
                                                          given by
                                                          William Drake
                                                          (a.k.a Bill)
                                                          in the NCSG
                                                          list among
                                                          other good
                                                          ones. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                                                          those who
                                                          might be new
                                                          to the
                                                          process, we
                                                          now have to
                                                          draft and
                                                          present a
                                                          Workshop
                                                          proposal to
                                                          the MAG in
                                                          order to get
                                                          approved and
                                                          be able to do
                                                          it in the IGF
                                                          meeting. Since
                                                          the deadline
                                                          to submit is
                                                          May 3, we
                                                          thought it
                                                          would be wise
                                                          to have our
                                                          final draft
                                                          for April 30
                                                          (which is end
                                                          of next week).
                                                          The time is
                                                          very tight,
                                                          but it is what
                                                          it is.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                                                          you can visit
                                                          the terms and
                                                          basic
                                                          information
                                                          for the
                                                          proposal: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/igf-2017-call-for-workshop-proposals" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/igf-2017-call-for-workshop-proposals</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                                                          created a
                                                          googledoc with
                                                          the official
                                                          template of
                                                          the proposal
                                                          we have to
                                                          submit, I
                                                          propose we
                                                          work on it as
                                                          we move
                                                          forward: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/10YJE8rT_yXNgtMDONb8tf4GMYMdmCIdcBIN6XOQSwo0/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://docs.google.com/document/d/10YJE8rT_yXNgtMDONb8tf4GMYMdmCIdcBIN6XOQSwo0/edit?usp=sharing</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                                                          propose that
                                                          the we try to
                                                          channel the
                                                          edits trough
                                                          me on this
                                                          list and just
                                                          do comments on
                                                          the google doc
                                                          to not
                                                          overwrite
                                                          things. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                                                          we need to do
                                                          now:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                                                          the
                                                          substantive
                                                          focus more
                                                          precisely and
                                                          linking it
                                                          clearly to
                                                          ICANN stuff so
                                                          it’s not
                                                          redundant with
                                                          all the other
                                                          cybersecurity
                                                          proposals the
                                                          MAG will be
                                                          reviewing. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                                                          speakers;  <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                                                          based on what
                                                          we already
                                                          outlined, we
                                                          need to tackle
                                                          that <b class="">First</b> task.
                                                          I encourage
                                                          you to read
                                                          the outline
                                                          below, the
                                                          form in the
                                                          google doc and
                                                          the resources
                                                          in the IGF web
                                                          I link above.
                                                          Once we finish
                                                          that we can
                                                          start making a
                                                          pool of
                                                          speakers to
                                                          contact. I
                                                          will be
                                                          filling the
                                                          draft as we
                                                          move forward
                                                          and you can
                                                          comment the
                                                          doc if you see
                                                          something
                                                          wrong or want
                                                          to propose an
                                                          answer or
                                                          writing.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                                                          day I will try
                                                          push the work
                                                          so sorry in
                                                          advanced if I
                                                          spam a little
                                                          this email
                                                          list, but we
                                                          only have a
                                                          few days to
                                                          draft this
                                                          out.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                                                          regards to
                                                          all,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                                                          Silva<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                                                          of the
                                                          Workshop Idea:</span></b><span class="" lang="EN-US"><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                                                          <b class="">1)Activity:
Please describe your proposed activity in detail<br class="">
                                                          </b><br class="">
                                                          A workshop in
                                                          Internet
                                                          Governance
                                                          Forum on
                                                          cybersecurity
                                                          and DNS.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:
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                                                          workshop will
                                                          look at
                                                          cybersecurity
                                                          specifically
                                                          in relation to
                                                          DNS, including
management interfaces, owner authentication processes, RDS/whois and
                                                          related
                                                          problems like
domain hijacking, privacy endangerment, spam etc, not from purely
                                                          technical
                                                          perspective
                                                          but also
                                                          in how they
                                                          should affect
                                                          ICANN policy.
                                                          The idea is
                                                          that even
                                                          non-technical
                                                          people
                                                          developing policy
                                                          should acquire
                                                          an
                                                          understanding
                                                          on how and
                                                          what kind of
                                                          security issues
                                                          they
                                                          should consider
                                                          when making
                                                          policy
                                                          decisions.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          Strategic
                                                          Alignment. Which
                                                          area of
                                                          ICANN’s
                                                          Strategic Plan
                                                          does this
                                                          request
                                                          support?</span></b><span class="" lang="EN-US"><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          a healthy,
                                                          stable and
                                                          resilient
                                                          unique
                                                          identifier ecosystem.<br class="">
                                                          <br class="">
                                                          <b class="">3)
                                                          Demographics.
What audience(s), in which geographies, does your request target?</b><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                                                          </span></b><span class="" lang="EN-US">All
                                                          ICANN regional
                                                          groups (NCSG
                                                          has members in
                                                          more than
                                                          100 countries).<br class="">
                                                          <br class="">
                                                          <b class="">4)
                                                          Deliverables.
                                                          What arethe
                                                          desired
                                                          outcomes of
                                                          your proposed
                                                          activity?<br class="">
                                                          </b><br class="">
                                                          Raised
                                                          awareness
                                                          about
                                                          cybersecurity
                                                          issues related
                                                          to DNS
                                                          and their
                                                          policy
                                                          implications; increased
                                                          engagement in
                                                          security work;
                                                          report feeding
                                                          into ICANN
                                                          processes as
                                                          well as
                                                          other cybersecurity
                                                          discussions.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          Metrics.
                                                          What measurements
                                                          will you use
                                                          to determine
                                                          whether your
                                                          activity
                                                          achieves
                                                          its desired
                                                          outcomes?<br class="">
                                                          </span></b><span class="" lang="EN-US"><br class="">
                                                          Attendance,
                                                          both onsite
                                                          and online;
                                                          increased
                                                          participation
                                                          on related
                                                          working groups
                                                          in ICANN and
                                                          elsewhere;
                                                          outcome
                                                          document
                                                          (report) that's
                                                          useful as
                                                          input to other
                                                          fora like
                                                          IGF Cybersecurity
                                                          Best
                                                          Practices forum.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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