<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Robert (and the same for everyone else), </div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Go ahead and put hands on, we really need co-orgniazations and experts, specially from other constituencies for this to work. So reach out, bring them in. If we can have a set of “topics” to discuss in a panel of experts then we have our workshop. So let’s hear what experts are going to be in the IGF and what topics would they be interested/willing to discuss.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cheers,</div><div class="">Martín</div><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 29, 2017, at 2:30 PM, Robert Guerra <<a href="mailto:rguerra@privaterra.org" class="">rguerra@privaterra.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><span class="" style="line-height:normal!important;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Bill,</span></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">As I mentioned on the google doc - I polled th ssac and heard back th following:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">* there's an interest and willingness to collaborate on this proposal . Special ally, there's an interest to bring a Security , operations and technical perspective (if that is of interest)</div><div class="">* ssac members available</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I polled the ssac and At least 2 members got back to me who would be happy to participate on the panel (in person or virtually)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">- the two persons are - </div><div class="">1. Ben Butler from GoDaddy who likely would be able to speak to RDS/Whois , domain hijacking and takedown </div><div class="">2. Jeff Bedser , who is more a cyber investigations expert who can speak to law enforcement , takedown as well as cooperation that's needed when doing investigations for ip takedowns and cybercrime </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">* if a DNS operations , DNSSEC or registry operations is also desired, let me know and I'll teach out directly to others on the ssac who have, in the past, participated such as Merike Kaeo </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">* ssac has contacts with law enforcement community . If that perspective is desired and can be added , let me know to see if I can get the FBI contact I mentioned earlier to confirm (who likely will attend anyway)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Let me know so I can follow-up accordingly </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Regards</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Robert </div> <br class=""><div class="bloop_sign"><div class="">-- <br class="">Robert Guerra</div>
</div> <div class="gmail_quote" style=""><br class="">From: <span style="" class="">Martin Pablo Silva Valent</span> <a href="mailto:mpsilvavalent@gmail.com" class=""><mpsilvavalent@gmail.com></a><br class="">Date: <span style="" class="">April 29, 2017 at 12:27:48 PM</span><br class="">To: <span style="" class="">Farell Folly</span> <a href="mailto:farellfolly@gmail.com" class=""><farellfolly@gmail.com></a><br class="">CC: <span style="" class="">Kuerbis, Brenden N</span> <a href="mailto:brenden.kuerbis@pubpolicy.gatech.edu" class=""><brenden.kuerbis@pubpolicy.gatech.edu></a>, <span style="" class="">Robert Guerra</span> <a href="mailto:rguerra@privaterra.org" class=""><rguerra@privaterra.org></a>, <span style="" class=""><a href="mailto:igf-team@lists.ncsg.is" class="">igf-team@lists.ncsg.is</a></span> <a href="mailto:igf-team@lists.ncsg.is" class=""><igf-team@lists.ncsg.is></a>, <span style="" class="">William Drake</span> <a href="mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com" class=""><wjdrake@gmail.com></a><br class="">Subject: <span style="" class=""> Re: [Igf-team] Global IGF 2017 - NCSG <br class=""></span></div><br class=""> <blockquote type="cite" class="gmail_quote"><span class=""><div class=""><div class=""></div><div class="">
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<div dir="auto" class="">Agree 100% on with Bill, unless someone has
something already cooked that we can go behind, let's reach out to
those experts, and hope some others ncsg experts follow, thanks
James !!! I am not an expert but I think the topic is something
different, new and concrete compared to other panels and our usual
work, worth for a try. So even if it is not my field I am more than
willing to fully support and engage.
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<div dir="auto" class="">If by the end of today we don't have any new
opinions I say let's bring the experts we have in our contacts. I
know there is a civil society cibersecurity approach to DNS!</div>
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<div dir="auto" class="">Cheers, </div>
<div dir="auto" class="">Martin </div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 29 Apr 2017 8:37 a.m., "Farell Folly"
<<a href="mailto:farellfolly@gmail.com" class="">farellfolly@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br type="attribution" class="">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr" class="">+1 Martin and William.</p><p dir="ltr" class="">Best Regards<br class="">
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<div class="gmail_quote">Le 29 avr. 2017 07:45, "William
Drake" <<a href="mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">wjdrake@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br type="attribution" class="">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">Hi
<div class=""><br class=""></div>
<div class="">So if time pressures and switching costs mean that NCSG wants
to to stick with the blue skies idea of DNS security issues for its
IGF proposal this year, we’re going to need some engagement from
people who know these issues well. James Gannon is here in
the group and can certainly help a lot if he has the bandwidth, not
sure who else feels close enough to the topic. Folks please
speak up if you’re feel you’re in a position to help lead.</div>
<div class=""><br class=""></div>
<div class="">I would also suggest we try to get some guidance from friendly
folks we know who are subject experts on the issues. Here’s
some suggestions of people who could a) be speakers if they’re
coming to Geneva and willing and b) either way could help craft a
session description and agenda if they’re inclined:</div>
<div class=""><br class=""></div>
<div class="">1. Brenden Kuerbis from NCUC/SG (who I’m taking the liberty of
Ccing without asking him first, sorry)</div>
<div class=""><br class=""></div>
<div class="">From the SSAC <a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/ssac-biographies-2017-02-16-en" target="_blank" class="">https://www.icann.org/res<wbr class="">ources/pages/ssac-biographies-<wbr class="">2017-02-16-en</a></div>
<div class=""><br class=""></div>
<div class="">2. Robert Guerra (also on the Cc as he expressed interest in
talking about security @ IGF in another convo)</div>
<div class="">3. Patrik Fältström (SSAC Chair)</div>
<div class="">4. Mark Seiden</div>
<div class="">5. Suzanne Woolf</div>
<div class="">6. Ram Mohan</div>
<div class="">7. Don Blumenthal</div>
<div class=""><br class=""></div>
<div class="">If we could get these folks engaged we’d have good guidance
and (if they’re coming and willing) the start of a good panel, with
private sector/technical community/civil society. It would
need geo/gender balance as well.</div>
<div class=""><br class=""></div>
<div class="">If people agree with this approach we could write to them and
try to get something going. Choice of format would depend how
many bodies we have etc.</div>
<div class=""><br class=""></div>
<div class="">In the meanwhile, Brenden and Robert, your thoughts
please. Martin’s place holder description would obviously
need to be built out and specified in keeping with the IGF proposal
form which asks for agenda and description of the convo flow
etc:</div>
<div class=""><i class=""><br class=""></i></div>
<div class=""><i class="">The workshop will look at cybersecurity specifically in
relation to DNS, including management interfaces, owner
authentication processes, RDS/whois and related problems like
domain hijacking, privacy endangerment, spam etc, not from
purely technical perspective but also in how they should affect
ICANN policy. The idea is that even non-technical people developing
policy should acquire an understanding on how and what kind of
security issues they should consider when making policy
decisions.</i></div>
<div class=""><br class=""></div>
<div class="">Thanks</div>
<div class=""><br class=""></div>
<div class="">Bill</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
<div class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">
<div class="">On Apr 28, 2017, at 19:27, Martin Pablo Silva Valent
<<a href="mailto:mpsilvavalent@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">mpsilvavalent@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class="">
<div class="">Dear all, </div>
<div class=""><span class="m_-628277965190402196m_-3244577486380839572Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"></span>Because of time we cannot go into
detail on each subject, I would suggest to choose one and just work
with it. We may not all be experts but we should be able to bring
them. We can change it to other besides Security as long as you
have already something sort out. To save time I suggest we
use all the same setting we used last year that was successful. If
we can agree on the subject, the more time consuming and difficult
will be to get the speakers, although her ewe might need Bill
guidance, I think we can change this a little bit later in order to
submit it on time. If you already have a subject to do that we can
write down and work around this is your time to talk. All ideas are
welcomed, have always been. </div>
<div class=""><br class=""></div>
<div class=""><span class="m_-628277965190402196m_-3244577486380839572Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"></span>Here I summarize the question we need
to answer so you can just answer this email instead of going to the
doc, I will then consolidate things on the doc.</div>
<div class=""><br class=""></div>
<div class=""><b class="">1) ¿Session Format?*</b></div>
<div class="">We can go for the 60 Min Break-out Group Discussions, we can
also go for the 90 minutes it really depends on what we have to do.
We could use the same format that we used last year here.<br class="">
<br class="">
<b class="">2) Session Format Description: </b></div>
<div class="">The easiest way it to have multi-stakeholder balanced
roundtable with the basic subjects of the agenda and open the floor
for in-site/remote participation. Again, if anyone have in mind an
already thought idea for this just bring it in.<br class="">
<br class="">
<b class="">3) Proposer and co-proposer: </b></div>
<div class="">NCSG chair, Tapani and who ever is co-hosting the workshop, if
we are going for cybersecurity then it should be someone with an
organization regarding that. <br class="">
<br class="">
<b class="">4) Speakers</b></div>
<div class=""><b class="">Depending on the subject. If you have names for
the cybersecurity let’s start listing that, we can maybe find
that co-host there if it is not already in this list.</b></div>
<div class=""><br class="">
<b class="">5) Content of the Session * (we outlined ciber security,
but you can use this space if you have an alternative)<br class="">
5.1) outline for the session</b></div>
<div class="">A workshop in Internet Governance Forum on cybersecurity and
DNS.<br class=""></div>
<div class=""><b class="">5.2) description of the intended agenda for the session and
the issues that will be discussed.</b></div>
<div class="">The workshop will look at cybersecurity specifically in
relation to DNS, including management interfaces, owner
authentication processes, RDS/whois and related problems like
domain hijacking, privacy endangerment, spam etc, not from
purely technical perspective but also in how they should affect
ICANN policy. The idea is that even non-technical people developing
policy should acquire an understanding on how and what kind of
security issues they should consider when making policy
decisions.<br class="">
<br class="">
<b class="">6) Relevance of the Issue *</b></div>
<div class="">Please provide a concise description of the Internet
Governance issue that your session will explore, including how this
issue relates to Internet governance broadly, as well as to the
main theme of IGF 2017: “Shape Your Digital Future!” In other
words, please tell us why this workshop is important to include in
the IGF programme.<br class="">
<br class="">
<b class="">7) Interventions <br class=""></b>Same model as last year<br class="">
<br class="">
<b class="">8) Diversity</b></div>
<div class=""><br class="">
<b class="">9) Here we need people that are going to be in the IGF
already:</b></div>
<div class=""><b class="">9.1) Onsite Moderator <br class="">
9.2) Online Moderator <br class="">
9.3) Rapporteur</b> <br class="">
<br class="">
<b class="">10) Online Participation * Yes, we will have remote acces
and moderators to que any on-line participation into the
room.<br class=""></b><br class="">
<b class="">11) Discussion facilitation <br class=""></b>We can use the same
model as last year</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
<b class="">Past IGF Participation<br class=""></b><br class="">
<b class="">History in IGF :</b> How many other workshop has the NCSG
and Co-organziers have? Report Links <br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<b class="">VOLUNTARY INFORMATION / RESOURCES FOR PROPOSERS<br class=""></b><br class="">
XVIII. Sustainable Development Goals<br class="">
<br class="">
If your workshop proposal is based upon one or more of the UN
Sustainable Development Goals, please indicate which numbers here.
Note that this information is voluntary and collected for
programming purposes only; this item has no bearing on the MAG’s
evaluation of your workshop proposal.<br class="">
<br class="">
XIX. Connecting with IGF Intersessional Groups & NRIs<br class="">
<br class="">
If you would like to incorporate content/speakers related to the
IGF’s intersessional work or the National and Regional Initiatives
(NRIs) into your workshop, please indicate which of the following
would be of interest. To the extent possible, the MAG/IGF
Secretariat will provide contacts for your outreach to pertinent
points of contact.<br class="">
<br class="">
Best Practice Forums <br class="">
<br class="">
Information<br class="">
<br class="">
Dynamic Coalitions <br class="">
<br class="">
Information<br class="">
<br class="">
National and Regional Initiatives <br class="">
<br class="">
Information<br class="">
<br class="">
XX. Connecting with International or Other Relevant
Organizations<br class="">
<br class="">
If you are interested in involving in your workshop any of the
numerous organizations or subject matter experts based in Geneva
(UN Agencies, NGOs, academia, think tanks, etc.), please indicate
your interest above. Please find a selection of such organizations
at: <a href="http://dig.watch/igf2017" target="_blank" class="">http://dig.watch/igf2017</a> F<wbr class="">or comprehensive
information on “International Geneva” please consult: <a href="http://www.genigf/" target="_blank" class="">http://www.genIGF</a> <br class="">
<br class="">
<br class=""></div>
<div class=""><br class=""></div>
</div>
<br class="">
<div class="">
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<div class="">On Apr 28, 2017, at 4:42 AM, Farell Folly <<a href="mailto:farellfolly@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">farellfolly@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class=""><p dir="ltr" class="">Dear All,</p><p dir="ltr" class="">So what do we decide? Regarding the short deadline, we
should take a decision today whether we do the initial
proposal or not (and quickly vote for another, if not).<br class="">
<br class=""></p><p dir="ltr" class="">Best Regards<br class="">
@__f_f__<br class="">
<a href="http://about.me/farell" target="_blank" class="">about.me/farell</a><br class="">
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<div class="gmail_quote">Le 26 avr. 2017 2:43 PM, "William
Drake" <<a href="mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">wjdrake@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br type="attribution" class="">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">Hi
<div class=""><br class=""></div>
<div class="">Well, I didn't mean to upset the apple cart here, especially
since at the outset I’d suggested we might consider security.
But I’m looking now at a multi-person consensus process that has to
finish a week from today, coupled with a topic on which many of us
may not be subject matter experts, and I’m just wondering if this
is sensible or we should try something that would come a lot easier
to us? I organized I think seven approved workshop proposals
for NCUC and NCSG between 2013-2015 and they were each time
consuming. So I’m inclined to say that if NCSG is going to get
something out quickly that meets the MAG’s criteria there’s no time
for navel gazing. Take a topic we know well and can populate
easily and start doing it.</div>
<div class=""><br class=""></div>
<div class="">We’ve done a number of these on civil society experiences in
ICANN and their wider implications so that might be a bit tired by
now. But maybe a hot substantive issue, like ICANN
jurisdiction, or CS @ ICANN as a model for other IG, or development
aspects of ICANN, etc…?</div>
<div class=""><br class=""></div>
<div class="">BD</div>
<div class=""><br class=""></div>
<div class=""><br class=""></div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin:0px;font-size:24px;line-height:normal;font-family:Palatino" class="">
<br class=""></div>
<div class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">
<div class="">On Apr 26, 2017, at 15:22, Louise Marie Hurel <<a href="mailto:louise.marie.hsd@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">louise.marie.hsd@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class="">
<div dir="ltr" class="">Dear all,
<div class=""><br class=""></div>
<div class="">Agree with Bill when he says that it is challenging to pin
down security @ ICANN. We should keep in mind that not all people
who attend the IGF are familiar with discussions at ICANN -- and if
it is challenging for us (at least for me) to understand what are
the borderlines of cybersecurity within ICANN, imagine for
people outside it. However, I do believe that this session could
contribute to a broader discussion about cybersecurity governance
(and thus the identification of overlapping spaces for
collaboration and interaction with other actors/institutions within
this field).</div>
<div class="">If the breakout session is the desired format, I'd
suggest that we need to think about how we are going to make it
more inclusive in the sense of leveraging between "going deeper
into DNS security" (for example) and "interacting with a wider
public" -- as Martin suggested: "<span style="font-size:12.800000190734863px" class="">The idea is that even
non-technical people developing policy should acquire an
understanding of how and what kind of security issues they
should consider when making policy decisions.</span>"</div>
<div class=""><br class=""></div>
<div class="">I know most of our agendas are loaded with calls, but perhaps
scheduling a one might help us in tackling some of these points
more rapidly.</div>
<div class=""><br class=""></div>
<div class=""><br class=""></div>
<div class="">Best,</div>
<div class=""><br class=""></div>
<div class="">Louise</div>
<div class=""><br class=""></div>
<div class=""><br class=""></div>
<div class=""><br class=""></div>
<div class=""> </div>
</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2017-04-26 5:23 GMT-03:00 AbdulRasheed
Tamton <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:rasheedt.c@stc.com.sa" target="_blank" class="">rasheedt.c@stc.com.sa</a>></span>:<br class="">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" class="">
<div class="m_-628277965190402196m_-3244577486380839572m_-6136547816255266898m_7780288874650152700WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" class="">
Dear All,<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" class="">
<u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" class="">
Happy to be part of the list. <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" class="">
<u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" class="">
Can anyone put some pointers for the subject so that it would be
more easier for us to start with. I have already read mail from
Martin and others but still would like to get the above, if anyone
can really do it.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" class="">
<u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" class="">
BR,<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" class="">
Rasheed Tamton.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" class="">
<u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in" class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" class="">
From:</span></b> <span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" class="">
Igf-team [mailto:<a href="mailto:igf-team-bounces@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank" class="">igf-team-bounces@lists<wbr class="">.ncsg.is</a>] <b class="">On
Behalf Of</b> Farell Folly<br class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 26, 2017 10:56 AM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b> William Drake<br class="">
<b class="">Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:igf-team@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank" class="">igf-team@lists.ncsg.is</a><br class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b> Re: [Igf-team] Global IGF 2017 -
NCSG<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class="">
<div class="m_-628277965190402196m_-3244577486380839572m_-6136547816255266898h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="">Dear all,<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="">Thanks Martins for reaching. @William is right about how
to choose the topic and what are the reasons behind the choice of
Security and DNS.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="">I suggest we give today (NLT tomorrow) as deadline for anyone
who would like to make any other suggestion. Otherwise, me must try
and increase our chance to win application for this
one.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="">Best Regards<br class="">
@__f_f__<br class="">
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______________________________<wbr class="">__.<br class="">
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brievety.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Le 25 avr. 2017 15:53, "William Drake"
<<a href="mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">wjdrake@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Hi<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for the boot-up
Martin.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">I’m in the middle of organizing another IGF
workshop proposal at the moment so I thought I’d flag a couple
things. It looks like we have over 30 people in this group, which
is great. I don’t know if everyone is equally familiar with how the
IGF workshop proposal process works, or how the Multistakeholder
Advisory Committee (MAG) evaluates proposals. But it is an
increasingly competitive and difficult business, they usually get
well over 200 proposals for under 100 workshop slots, so it’s
important to maximize the fit with their multiple and increasingly
time-consuming guidelines. There are about five documents at
the URL Martin shared one could look at in this regard.
Bottom line, the proposal needs to be crisp and provocative in
content; it needs co-sponsors from other organizations (preferably
not civil society); the speakers need to be very multistakeholder
and diverse (geo/gender/perspective/etc), and we have to have full
contact and other details on them; there needs to be a plan for
remote participation; all the roles must be filled, so we need
names of people we know will come to Geneva in December; and so
on. <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"> All a reasonably tall order given that
the deadline for submission is a week from tomorrow. This
being the case, it will be important to reach agreement quickly on
things like text so that outreach to potential speakers,
co-sponsors etc. can begin in earnest. <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">I see Martin has indicated on the Google doc
the choice of format as 60 minute break out session. I’ve
organized workshops at every IGF except last year (including a
number of them for NCUC and NCSG) and have never done one of these,
I’ve always done 90 minute panels or large roundtables. Maybe
first we should talk about the format we want? Also, are we
set on security? I suggested it on the list when we were chatting
about possibilities, but I’m not sure how easy it will be for us to
organize something on security @ ICANN in the time available, what
are the overarching questions we want to explore, what kinds of
people could we get, etc. So maybe it’d make sense to sort
such threshold issues up front?<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">On Apr 25, 2017, at 16:28, Martin Pablo Silva
Valent <<a href="mailto:mpsilvavalent@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">mpsilvavalent@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">I sent this email wrong on sunday to the
igf-team-request@ email. Here goes right, sorry for
that.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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</div><p class="MsoNormal">Dear all,<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Welcome to the email-list that Tapani so
thoughtfully created for us to work on the NCSG Global IGF 2017
Workshop Proposal. A few month ago, after a very successful
workshop in the Global IGF 2016, we lunched once again the idea to
do a workshop for the 2017 IGF, after a few rounds of ideas in
discussions we submitted the request to ICANN and they approved our
project.At the end of this email I copy the details that outline
the idea that we shared with ICANN, originally given by William
Drake (a.k.a Bill) in the NCSG list among other good
ones. <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">For those who might be new to the process, we
now have to draft and present a Workshop proposal to the MAG in
order to get approved and be able to do it in the IGF meeting.
Since the deadline to submit is May 3, we thought it would be wise
to have our final draft for April 30 (which is end of next week).
The time is very tight, but it is what it is.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Here you can visit the terms and basic
information for the proposal: <a href="https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/igf-2017-call-for-workshop-proposals" target="_blank" class="">https://www.intgovfo<wbr class="">rum.org/multilingual/content/i<wbr class="">gf-2017-call-for-workshop-prop<wbr class="">osals</a><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">I created a googledoc with the official
template of the proposal we have to submit, I propose we work on it
as we move forward: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/10YJE8rT_yXNgtMDONb8tf4GMYMdmCIdcBIN6XOQSwo0/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank" class="">https://docs.google.c<wbr class="">om/document/d/10YJE8rT_yXNgtMD<wbr class="">ONb8tf4GMYMdmCIdcBIN6XOQSwo0/e<wbr class="">dit?usp=sharing</a><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">I propose that the we try to channel the edits
trough me on this list and just do comments on the google doc to
not overwrite things. <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">What we need to do now:<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><b class="">First: </b>Defining the substantive
focus more precisely and linking it clearly to ICANN stuff so it’s
not redundant with all the other cybersecurity proposals the MAG
will be reviewing. <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><b class="">Second</b>: Identifying speakers;
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">So, based on what we already outlined, we need
to tackle that <b class="">First</b> task. I encourage you to read
the outline below, the form in the google doc and the resources in
the IGF web I link above. Once we finish that we can start making a
pool of speakers to contact. I will be filling the draft as we move
forward and you can comment the doc if you see something wrong or
want to propose an answer or writing.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Each day I will try push the work so sorry in
advanced if I spam a little this email list, but we only have a few
days to draft this out.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Best regards to all,<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Martín Silva<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><b class="">Outline of the Workshop
Idea:</b><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<b class="">1)Activity: Please describe your proposed activity in
detail<br class=""></b><br class="">
A workshop in Internet Governance Forum on cybersecurity
and DNS.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">The workshop will
look at cybersecurity specifically in relation to DNS,
including management interfaces, owner authentication
processes, RDS/whois and related problems like
domain hijacking, privacy endangerment, spam etc, not
from purely technical perspective but also in how they
should affect ICANN policy. The idea is that even
non-technical people developing policy should acquire an
understanding on how and what kind of security issues they
should consider when making policy
decisions.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
</div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b class="">2) Strategic
Alignment. Which area of ICANN’s Strategic Plan does this
request support?</b><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Support a healthy, stable and resilient unique
identifier ecosystem.<br class="">
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<b class="">3) Demographics. What audience(s), in which geographies,
does your request target?</b><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b class=""><br class=""></b>All
ICANN regional groups (NCSG has members in more than
100 countries).<br class="">
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<b class="">4) Deliverables. What arethe desired outcomes of your proposed
activity?<br class=""></b><br class="">
Raised awareness about cybersecurity issues related to DNS
and their policy implications; increased engagement in
security work; report feeding into ICANN processes as well as
other cybersecurity discussions.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><b class="">5) Metrics. What measurements will you
use to determine whether your activity achieves its desired
outcomes?<br class=""></b><br class="">
Attendance, both onsite and online; increased participation
on related working groups in ICANN and elsewhere; outcome
document (report) that's useful as input to other fora like
IGF Cybersecurity Best Practices forum.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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