<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Hi Robin,<br><br></div>I total concur with your suggestion, it makes things easier and can even be adopted at all our constituency level.<br><br></div>Brilliant suggestion to me +1<br><br></div>Poncelet<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 26 June 2017 at 18:12, Robin Gross via Election-reform <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:election-reform@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank">election-reform@lists.ncsg.is</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Thanks, Tapani. I think we may want to approach this from a different angle. Instead of trying to come up with an interpretation for NOTA, let’s come up with a mechanism that clearly achieves our goal. It probably isn’t even called “NOTA”.<div><br></div><div>What we are actually after is a way to make sure that every candidate faces a Yes or No option, so someone can’t win by default, and there must actually be <b><i>approval</i></b> of the candidate by the membership to be our representative. </div><div><br></div><div>What is the best way to device that goal in the ballot? Perhaps simply a yes-no-abstain choice for each candidate would suffice? Then the x candidates with the most yes votes are winners (as long as they have more yes than no votes). We would need a procedure for how to handle the theoretical case in which there isn’t enough candidates approved by the membership to fill slots, but that is easily devised.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Robin</div><div><div class="h5"><div><br></div><div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jun 26, 2017, at 9:46 AM, Tapani Tarvainen via Election-reform <<a href="mailto:election-reform@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank">election-reform@lists.ncsg.is</a><wbr>> wrote:</div><br class="m_-2755356601239875223Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div>Dear all,<br><br>I'd like to get some feedback on the charter requirements.<br><br>As you see there's no mention of NotA there. I can think<br>of three ways to interpret it:<br><br>A. The charter does not allow NotA at all.<br><br>B. NotA can be considered a candidate.<br><br>C. NotA can be thought of as allowed implicitly, by default,<br> as most elections in general have something like it.<br><br>Opinions?<br><br>Other interpretations I haven't thought of?<br><br>Tapani<br><br>On Jun 26 11:00, Tapani Tarvainen via Election-reform (<a href="mailto:election-reform@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank">election-reform@lists.ncsg.is</a><wbr>) wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"><br>Dear all,<br><br>As time is running short, I think it's better to start with<br>potentially most difficult issues and ones that *must* be<br>resolved before the netx elections. So let's have a go at NotA.<br><br>Initially I have two criteria I think must be met:<br><br>(1) Compatibility with our charter, at least some reasonable<br>interpretation of it.<br><br>(2) Clarity. It should be easy to understand what the rules<br>actually mean in any foreseeable situation.<br><br>Feel free to suggest additions or comment on those.<br><br>Regarding the first, here's the most relevant part of our Charter:<br><br><br>4.3 Election for NCSG GNSO Council Representatives (size, number, and<br>distribution of votes):<br><br>In the discussion below, N refers to the number of seats that need to<br>be elected. Optimally N will equal 3 seats in years with normal<br>rotation. Any number of reasons can cause this number to vary.<br><br>• NCSG members classified as “individuals” will be given N votes and<br>must assign 1 vote to each of N candidates.<br><br>• NCSG members classified as “small organizations” will be given 2N<br>votes and must assign exactly 2 votes to each of N candidates.<br><br>• NCSG members classified as “large organizations” will be given 4N<br>votes and must assign exactly 4 votes to each of N candidates.<br><br><br>4.4 Election of NCSG Chair (size and number of votes):<br><br>• NCSG members classified as “individuals” will be given 1 vote.<br><br>• NCSG members classified as “small organizations” will be given 2<br>votes.<br><br>• NCSG members classified as “large organizations” will be given 4<br>votes.<br><br>• Members must cast all their votes for a single candidate.<br><br><br>The full charter is here, feel free to point out other things<br>there you think are relevant:<br><br><a href="https://gnso.icann.org/en/improvements/ncsg-charter-05may11-en.pdf" target="_blank">https://gnso.icann.org/en/<wbr>improvements/ncsg-charter-<wbr>05may11-en.pdf</a><br><br>-- <br>Tapani Tarvainen<br></blockquote>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>Election-reform mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Election-reform@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank">Election-reform@lists.ncsg.is</a><br><a href="https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/election-reform" target="_blank">https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/<wbr>listinfo/election-reform</a><br></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div><br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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